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[–] lurklurk@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The headline overreaches as the article doesn't support the passport dying as much as some early exploration into potential digital variants, and some convenience efforts to not have to show the passport.

Dying would be "most people use the digital variant, it's accepted everywhere and we're phasing out the paper variant".... which sounds like it might happen on the same timeline as large scale fusion energy

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 months ago

Clickbait/Ragebait Journalism in a nutshell.

[–] maidenthailand@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Literally shoot me if this becomes a reality. I don't want my ability to travel to be dependent on something with a steadily dying battery.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 11 months ago

Not just a dying battery, but a fragile screen, malware, and a tendency to get stolen.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

“One day there will be no borders, no boundaries, no flags and no countries and the only passport will be the heart” - Carlos Santana

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 1 points 11 months ago

But also we'll track everyone everywhere they go, with facial recognition.

[–] Sixtyforce@sh.itjust.works 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

We'll go extinct eventually so that's true.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

What if I told you the idea of a passport was invented about 600 years ago and nobody needed permission to travel before that

[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

“You'll own nothing and you'll be happy”

[–] Zron@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I mean, you never owned your passport, ever.

If you look at the very first page, it says “ property of the US government” and then there’s some blurb about tampering being a felony.

Same thing for a diver’s license. You don’t own it, your state does.

I do agree that moving to digital identification is a huge mistake. It’s too easy to lose access to a digital device or account. Or have it spoofed in some way. I’d much rather have a physical ID that won’t run out of battery or have a glitch that makes accessing it impossible for an unknown length of time.

[–] BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 3 points 11 months ago

Thats a bit tame, first page of the British passport is:

"His Britannic Majesty's Secretary of State requests and requires in the name of His Majesty all those whom it may concern to allow the bearer to pass freely without let or hindrance and to afford the bearer such assistance and protection as may be necessary"

Oi you, this is my mate and you're going to look after him, alright.

[–] Virkkunen@fedia.io 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If you look at the very first page, it says " property of the US government"

I'm pretty sure the USA does not own my South American and European passports nor my driving licences

[–] Zron@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No, but your government probably does.

Or is this too abstract a concept to extrapolate.

[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 11 months ago

I think the previous person was just giving a shitpost style reply

[–] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 2 points 11 months ago

I'll add this to the list of things that were working just fine that we're about to break along with using a passport to board a plane.

[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago
[–] thbb@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don't have a mobile phone. How is that supposed to work? Will owning a specific object and attached subscription to a private entity be mandated by law?

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

More and more not complying with digitalization will get you into trouble. I don't think it will be mandatory but expect to run into delays, similar to how you technically have the right to refuse the x-ray-like machine at airport security, but doing so is time consuming, everyone will hate you for it, and cause you significant delays, on top of making you look suspicious.

And it sucks.

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

I quit flying (domestically, at least) over the x-rays and TSA bullshit. I'm driving 13 hours today in order to avoid that particular security theater.

[–] FireWire400@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No it's not? Literally just got a new passport and they didn't say anything about digital passport

[–] codexarcanum@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 11 months ago

This is called manufacturing consent. News media tells you what future the elites want so it seems inevitable and desired when they force it through. Alternative futures can never be considered.