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Low-income voters who supported Donald Trump are expressing concerns over potential cuts to government benefits as his administration pushes for aggressive spending reductions.

Trump’s newly announced “Department of Government Efficiency” (DOGE), led by Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy, is tasked with cutting programs, raising fears about impacts on social safety nets.

Trump also plans to shut down the Education Department, impose tariffs on imports from China, Mexico, and Canada, and has nominated Robert F. Kennedy Jr. as Health Secretary, signaling a focus on controversial health policies.

Voter anxieties about these shifts are growing.

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[–] GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 142 points 1 year ago (7 children)

"He's not going to hurt the poor. He's too smart for that."

Oh, you infuriating fucking summer child. It'd be hilarious if I wasn't stuck in this hellbound handbasket with the rest of you fucking mongoloids.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 43 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's their logic .... they weren't thinking "He's not going to hurt the poor" ....

They were thinking "He's not going to hurt ME! He's going to hurt other people I don't like."

[–] GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've actually heard Maga people admit they'll get hurt by these policies, but immigrants and homos will get hurt MOAR!, y'know, like Jesus taught, so it's cool.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yep. The GOP has worked tirelessly for decades to convince people that we are not capable of helping everyone. That it's a zero-sum game, and someone else receiving something means that another more deserving person (AKA straight/white/cis/etc.) must be deprived of the thing.

Therefore, since our government is incapable of providing for all, in their minds (because the Republicans have made sure of it), then the next best thing is making sure nobody gets the thing. Especially someone who doesn't "deserve" it.

Good ol American rugged individualism.

[–] bitwise@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

A friendly reminder that "mongoloid" is a racist pejorative, and that the government of Mongolia literally ran a campaign decades ago to get people to stop doing it.

[–] GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 year ago

I did not know that and will adjust accordingly.

[–] Asidonhopo@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

As much as I respect Ghengis Khan and his ilk, I will not stop listening to that Devo song.

[–] WaxiestSteam69@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Well they deserve their benefits unlike those other poors who are in a bad spot due to their own faults.

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[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 107 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] jeansburger@lemmy.world 73 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hate how this is always on fucking point. These people don't have empathy until it affects them in a personal way, then all of a sudden it's "who let this happen?!"

It was you, you fucking dipshits, by not having the emotional intelligence to be able to think for one second in another person's shoes or think out the end conclusion to a piece of rhetoric.

[–] JaymesRS@literature.cafe 15 points 1 year ago

That’s the party of personal responsibility for you.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 72 points 1 year ago (1 children)

“He is more attuned to the needs of everyone instead of just the rich,” Mosura, 55, said on a recent afternoon. “I think he knows it’s the poor people that got him elected, so I think Trump is going to do more to help us.”

Oh. My. God.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 1 year ago (3 children)

How are these people real?

[–] JTskulk@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

For real, the guy that just learned the word "groceries" is the hero of the common man.

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[–] LuxSpark@lemmy.cafe 68 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 44 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also, killing Mexicans and Palestinians is still fine. They're just worried about their benefits.

I don't fully blame them. Our systems of news in this country are so bad that you can't hold them responsible, because they're in no way fully aware of what a nightmare Trump is going to be. But if their benefits is what wakes them up, with no other change happening in the news landscape, them fuck them and they deserve it.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 54 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Voter anxieties about these shifts are growing.

Oh, NOW they're concerned? Not when we were all beating the drum telling these morons that Trump was going to fuck the country again?

God.

[–] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 1 year ago

Yes but what about the trans people? Surely it will be worth losing their food stamps and Healthcare to ensure that trans people suffer, for some reason.

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[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 49 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Low income voters who supported Trump deserve what he does to them.

[–] DarkShaggy@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not like he was secretive about how he was going to hose them?

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

Some people are more concerned about punishing the people they don't think deserve things that they'll let themselves get caught up in the same bullshit.

[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 35 points 1 year ago

If you vote for trump you deserve him.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago
[–] nifty@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

Low income voters should demand taxing the wealthy, like multimillionaires and billionaires, more rather than just hoping for benefits

[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

Leopards will become morbidly obese in 6-12 months. Being stupid is expensive.

[–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 year ago

I wish I could offer them some solace, but I can't. They are absolutely fucked. We are all fucked. This is going to take decades to recover from, and that's assuming we even can.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

All well and good to admire the leopard feast, but I'm worried about the fact that once these people are down and out, society is going to have to collectively carry them one way or another.

It's concerning that many people near the edge will fall off it, regardless of their voting position.

It's obviously concerning that since republican policy will be enacted, more will solely be covered via emergency services rather than collective safety nets, which is an overall cost increase to society.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

At this point, I'm convinced it's just a matter of regulating food

Every major revolution in history was more or less sparked and accelerated because people were starving. And when you have the choice of starving to death or doing something, anything, then most people will opt for action rather than dying.

So as long as you keep people fed .... you can abuse them, manipulate them, treat them with no respect and take away everything from them and the majority of them won't do a thing ... take away their food however, and they'll lash out like a wild animal.

This also doesn't mean that you keep people well fed ... it just means keeping enough food in their grasp to keep them from revolting.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If they fail to provide food, I think there's a chance a significant enough chunk of people would learn that the right will not help them no matter what. Perhaps that would be enough to crack the fucking propaganda.

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[–] randompasta@lemmy.today 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wish more people realize this.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

To the downvotes:

I completely acknowledge that right wing policy is the problem here, and these people brought it about. If anyone deserves consequences, it should be those that actively brought them about.

I am not sympathetic for leopard chew toys, I'm sympathetic for society which has no option but to accommodate them.

[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 year ago

Wait, people are getting what they asked for? Colour me surprised.

[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

America's version of Brexit is just starting. Wait to see what happens in 3 years' time!

[–] FirstCircle@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

When our economy collapses due to the Musk/Trump "management" of it, then Musk/Trump/etc will need to start a hot war to put citizens to work and excuse vast new amounts of spending (financed with borrowing), mostly on the MIC. Just like Hitler did in the late 30s. Who the victim will be, I've no idea. The stupid little post-9/11 middle-eastern wars made MIC types richer but I don't think they greatly affected the US economy otherwise. No, I think we'll need a big war, against a fairly powerful opponent, to justify all of the "sacrifice" the domestic Poors are going to be asked to engage in. The opponent should be, ideally, a prime target for racial and cultural bigotry - a people that the Poors already think is gross. That'll boost the enlistment rates among their young, who'll be all too happy to sign up to murder whoever MAGA says is foul and hateable and responsible for the shit sandwiches that they've found on their plates. But will Musk/Trump try to take on a Russia or China or NK, opponents that might let fly with nukes? Wall St. won't be keen on that I think, and the billionaires own MAGA now, but still there'll be all those starving, diseased poors ... how will we protect billionaire wealth while maximally leveraging the poors' racism/bigotry and their desire to feel strong and important, to have a stage and to have at least a micro-MAGA-sized personal claim to glory?

[–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

We're going to invade Latin America. Not a little bit, a LOT of it. It'll be Socialists we invade.

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I hope you're wrong but I'm very afraid you could be right.

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