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I had a realization that the very existence of private domestic shippers in countries indicates a failure of their government to provide universal infrastructure needed by all citizens.

There may be specialized needs like same-day couriers, special handling requirements and other edge cases, but those should be small specialty houses, not international mega-corps.

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[–] Hexanimo@kbin.earth 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Others have already mentioned this, but OP seems to completely miss the fact that USPS is obligated to perform its affordable, uniform-rate deliveries to rural areas.

https://www.ips-dc.org/the-public-postal-service-and-rural-america/

Rural areas account for 88 percent of the geographic area served by the Postal Service, but just 16 percent of the U.S. population.

Some 57 percent of post offices are in rural areas and while they serve a vital purpose, nearly two-thirds of them have not been profitable in recent years.

Given that most of the population lives in cities, it makes sense that competing operations would form to provide services that can be cheaper, faster, and capable of shipping packages that are extra heavy, large dimensions, or require refrigeration. Specifically because these private shippers rely on USPS for last mile delivery or do not service rural areas at all, they are able to operate with much better margins. These companies grow into megacorps because, as OP mentioned, economies of scale. If someone needs to specialty ship something they are going to prefer to use a well-known business with a proven track record that services the widest area. Once a company is servicing an area, it becomes more efficient and therefore profitable to increase deliveries within that area, creating extra incentives for a shipper to grow.

I'm not here to say that USPS is flawless, but it is inherently at a disadvantage for urban delivery due to the losses it incurs to fulfill its obligation to service the country as a whole.

This is getting long-winded for a showerthoughts response, so I'm just going to link information regarding the additional obstacles USPS faces:

https://govtschemes.org/usps-operational-restructuring-plan-update/

https://govfacts.org/government/federal/independent-executive/usps/understanding-the-biggest-problems-facing-usps/

(I realized after reading that govfacts.org are AI generated articles, but there is good information, so I am still including it)

[–] badgermurphy@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

The required obligations of the USPS do hamstring them competitively in some areas, that is true. That said, I don't believe their charter requires them to permit repackaging and reselling their service.

Since this is a tax-subsidized public amenity, it strikes me as an abuse of the commons to allow a shipping company to ship things on someone else's behalf using the USPS. It seems directly analogous to digging up the flowers in the park and selling them.

[–] schwim@piefed.zip 34 points 1 week ago

A fun little doc about your selected shipper(USPS), their corruption and pursuit of profit.

A postal worker is harassed and fired for standing up to a toxic culture. His son’s powerful documentary exposes how the USPS was systematically dismantled for profit — at the direct expense of the people who keep it running. A gripping true story of courage, corruption, and a system that turned on its own.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXsP1Gngd4w

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

whats really annoying is shipping would not even happen to rural areas for a decent price without the usps in the us. Its one of the bigger subsidies. Honestly same with electrification without the gov pushing it. Everyone dumps on the post office but from my experience they had the best service everything else being equal. Which its not given the republicans love to try and hamstring the operation. I don't agree private should not be allowed or anything but the governement should always be one with strong privacy protections. They should do the same online with the very same protections.

[–] Stormy@thelemmy.club 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Internet too. I had to call and ask an internet company to please lay line to my house for years, and they wouldnt do it until 2015.

They kept telling me I'd have to pay half of the cost for a digger, which they said would be a total of 20k.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 2 points 1 week ago

yeah we saw it less with internet until they started applying the phone line things to internet. even now the current administration cut what it considered broadbrand for subsidy purposes.

[–] badgermurphy@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

The thing is, theres not even a point in banning private competition. I believe somehow it got insinuated that my shower thought also suggested banning private competition, but that wasn't my intention.

The USPS is subsidized, tax exempt, a subsidiary of a bigger organization, and has built in economies of scale. If someone can compete on that super skewed playing field, more power to them! A side benefit is that private competitors being able to win on price or service despite USPS's huge advantages all but proves the USPS is dropping the ball, corrupt, or both; it's a built-in alarm.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

How does this work on an international scale? If our hypothetical shipper flies to another country, do they waste time and fuel on an empty return flight?

[–] badgermurphy@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

The international shipper's logistics would have to be theirs to handle, just as they are today. Any inefficiencies would be passed on to the consumer, as always, and more efficient shippers with better logistics can win on price with their lower overhead.

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz -3 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I understand why health care should be socialized, but why should package delivery be?

Why stop there, maybe the government should have a monopoly on hair salons and pizzerias since everyone uses those too. /s

[–] LastYearsIrritant@sopuli.xyz 11 points 1 week ago

Because without the post office, then people in rural areas would never get any mail. Same with electricity, internet, and other utilities.

You have to support people that live in all parts of the country, because we can't survive if 100% of the population lived in dense cities. You need stuff that can only be done in remote areas.

[–] riskable@programming.dev 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

A big reason why everything is made in China is because the Chinese government subsidizes the cost of shipping.

Local governments in China literally reimburse local businesses 20-50% of air freight costs.

The national Chinese government subsidizes ocean freight and commercial shipbuilding to the tune of 50%.

They also subsidize a zillion other things, but the bottom line is that by using taxes to pay for their postal/shipping services, they're easily able to out-compete Western nations/businesses in overall product costs.

Imagine if the US was still paying for USPS through taxes—how much that would save businesses in the US and keep them competitive internationally.

I agree with you, But I suggest that you look at your own position through the same slippery slope argument. If medicine has to be socialised, why stop there? If you think medicine should be socialized, but not package delivery, why is your opinion more valid than someone who thinks that package delivery should also be socialized? Or than someone who thinks that neither should be socialized?

[–] Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 3 points 1 week ago

Getting mail delivered is a process that everyone needs. It is the last fallback to make sure important communication reaches a person, including mail regarding anything citizenship. It is also a lot cheaper than having a bunch of private companies doing this basic thing.

[–] badgermurphy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

You stop at things everyone needs. Hair salons and pizzerias are not needed by all citizens and society would adapt immediately if they ceased to exist overnight.

Shipping includes all mail, physical correspondence, and delivery of goods, including to the stores. Society as structured needs that desperately to operate and would promptly collapse without it.