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[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 116 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't think they plan on voters being an insurmountable problem.

[–] eicker@lemmy.world 75 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That’s the unsettling part. When billionaires spend fortunes shaping elections, it’s reasonable to ask whether they see voters as citizens to persuade or obstacles to manage. Democracy becomes a lot less inconvenient when you can fund the candidates, influence the platforms hosting the debate, and lobby the people writing the rules. All perfectly legal, of course.

[–] fushuan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 75 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Y'all should stop using the word lobby and call it what it is. Bribery. The only reason your country isn't stupid corrupt at face value is because you legalized bribery.

[–] Humanius@lemmy.world 43 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Annoyingly it also turned the word "lobby" into a contaminated dirty word, even though lobbying is a healthy and important part of a functional democracy.

Any group collectively arguing in favour of their interest to the government is a lobby. That group can be anything from employers, to unions, to civil rights advocates.

The problematic part is the bribery, not the fact that there is interest groups lobbying the government.

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[–] eicker@lemmy.world 76 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Turns out telling people your technology will replace their jobs, devour their electricity, and possibly end civilization isn’t the winning sales pitch billionaires imagined. Imagine spending hundreds of millions buying political influence, only to discover voters don’t enjoy being treated like obsolete hardware.

[–] Karjalan@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

telling people your technology will replace their jobs, devour their electricity, and possibly end civilization isn’t the winning sales pitch billionaires imagined.

"but what you guys aren't getting is the fact that it'll make me a lot more money."

[–] random_character_a@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

AI is still not viable business. All that fear mongering is to create an alternative revenue sources.

"look, I created a monster that can destroy us all. Please give me money to contain and tame it. We can't destroy it because our enemies are creating their own monsters."

[–] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

They recognised that actual sales revenue pales in comparison to inflated stock prices (Teslas model) and to-big-to-fail government bailouts (2008).

[–] seshcobar@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

You forgot to cite Patrick Boyle here ;)

[–] TrackenDaKracken@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

I can only hope this is true. Most voters aren't paying a bit of attention to where the money comes from.

They're using AI. They think it's wonderful, they've barely heard about the controversy around data centers, and think "data centers are where the internet it, yOU lIkE thE inTErNeT, Don'T yoU?"

The Top 10 AI Uses in 2025 (none of which it does very well):

  • Therapy and companionship
  • Organizing my life
  • Finding purpose
  • Enhanced learning
  • Summarizing content
  • Generating ideas
  • Generating code (for professionals)
  • Improving code (for professionals)
  • Creativity
  • Visual art and design
[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

My thoughts exactly. I know two folks who are going all in with AI and haven't even considered any controversy. Feels like they live on another planet. Hell, one of the guys was even showing off his pervert glasses and when I called them pervert glasses he laughed and said he hadn't heard that before.

I really hope those folks are in the minority.

[–] Malica@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago

I sleep at night by telling myself they're the minority

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So, you also cannot discern the difference in traditional DCs and AI DCs? I feel like you know and I'm missing something.

[–] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

Scale. Older data centers fit in the "light industrial" zoned parts of town and required some minor grid upgrades to the local electrical distribution.

Planned data centers require as much power as an entire rural state and are the size of a small town and get buit too fast to wait for any new power generation to be added to the grid.

[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

their efforts aren't buying the political capital they'd hoped for.

Trump did get elected by "AI money" and they all celebrated on stage with him, you know.

Midterms? Yeah, when you are an indisputably shitty President who has broken every campaign promise and is openly deranged, you will likely lose the midterms no matter how much you try to pump Republicans. Diminishing returns.

Usually the "winning" party only holds power for a couple terms, then, after their incompetence has disgusted yet another generation of voters, they lose, only to be replaced by the other party that will repeat the process.

bOtH sIdEs, YeS, oH My

I vote in every election, and you should too. Because it's funny

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[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago

Capitalism is incompatible with democracy.

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Expect bipartisan legislation to increase the anonymity of PAC money before the year is over.

[–] Avicenna@programming.dev 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I wouldn't be surprised if more than half of democrats would be ok to give republicans more power so that they can squash progressive wing of democrats who are making people realize how useless half of democrat party is.

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Definitely half the Senate; they've been there the longest, and seem more interested in internal party structures and hierarchies than governing. Some of them seem genuinely shook by the way Trump has upended Democratic norms, but even then they seem like they just want to get back to business as usual.

The good news is that I don't think the current leadership is long for power. Schumer came across like such a weak imbecile in the shutdown negotiations that even centrists want him gone. Jefferies might hold on for another term because he kept the caucus together during the shutdown, but he's heavily tied to AIPAC, and that is now deeply toxic to most Democratic voters.

[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

~~AI Billionaires Are Flooding Money Into Politics~~ are flooding politics with money, or pouring money into politics.

This is grade school stuff, FFS!

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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Which billionaires aren't flooding money into politics to influence elections? They were doing it long before all the AI drama.

Tbh, probably GabeN

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

All Dems have to do is run with Data Center Prohibition as their main issue, and they would win EVERY election, and destroy the MAGA movement. Even Republicans hate Data Centers, and ALL MAGA candidates LOVE them. No MAGA candidate cans say anything against them. Florida MAGA candidates are trying to ease it by claiming that they'll make sure that citizens won't pay the costs, but everybody knows they're lying. That's about the most opposition they're putting.

MAGA is the party of UNLIMITED Data Centers. Just slam that over and over, and NOBODY will vote MAGA.

[–] redballooon@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Would the promise require dems to actually do something about data centers?

[–] JustAnotherKay@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Election race promises are not legally binding unfortunately

[–] RxBrad@infosec.pub 3 points 1 week ago

Both sides are taking data center money, though.

Here in Michigan, Governor Whitmer (Dem) is all-in on AI, even doing photo ops at (extremely locally unpopular) data center groundbreakings. "Think of all the local jobs" is the supposed upside. (spoiler: there are no local jobs being created)

[–] im_fine_sandy@nord.pub 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Hello Americans! Please vote! Sincerely, everyone else.

[–] Asfalttikyntaja@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I’m not trusting the US voting system anymore. I think it’s going to be rigged and they won’t get over the republicans. I still hope that midterms will change the way USA behave, but I’m not going to hold my breath for it.

[–] im_fine_sandy@nord.pub 11 points 1 week ago

Yeah. Rigged or not it's not going to be the landslide everyone is waiting for.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Trump's claims of election rigging as so dumb because they can't even come up with a plausible way it could have happened. We have 90,000 polling places, across 50 states, all of whom run elections their own way. There's no central database to hackerman. Best anyone could possibly do is maybe sway the local dog catcher election. Maybe.

[–] BlaestEgnen@feddit.dk 1 points 1 week ago

Well, all of our politicians are and that's the problem

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

By backfiring you mean they have nearly total control then yes. Those losers, it has totally backfired on them and now they are richer and more powerful than ever!

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 week ago

I'm sick of all the shiny shoes and the posturing. I need a serious person with substance.

[–] inari@piefed.zip 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

The next step seems obvious: they'll take a page from the tobacco, gun, and meat industries and instead create fake think tanks or associations to funnel political money semi-anonymously.

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[–] MushuChupacabra@piefed.world 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Troll Musk. Vote Democrat.

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[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Give us each $100,000 and I'll consider it.

[–] pigup@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I thought someone did the math and said if all US billionaires were slaughtered and the money divided amongst US population, we'd all get like $400k+.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I always wondered if it would've been cheaper in Iraq and Afghanistan to just pay everyone to hand over their weapons and leave.

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

That was literally the case for Vietnam. They already hated the Chinese, we just needed to invest in industry for them and they would have been our allies.

The only problem was that France didn't want that. They were too busy throwing a tantrum over losing their colony

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Hell, we trained Ho Chi Minh in guerilla combat against the Japanese. The US was sympathetic to the independence of the old European colonies after the war. If it wasn't for the cold war and trying to woo France into NATO we likely would've sided with Vietnam.

[–] gian@lemmy.grys.it 5 points 1 week ago (3 children)

IF the billionaires are really worth their money.
Unluckily the billionaires are only theoretically worth their money since it depends on the value of their shares in the companies, shares value that is only supposed.

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[–] MortUS@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

I wouldn't be surprised at all if Futurism articles are just written by AI tbh...

Low bar journalism and reporting.

[–] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago

Financial obesity is neurotoxic, an existential threat to any society that tolerates it, and needs to cease being celebrated, rewarded, and positioned as an aspirational goal.

Corporations are the only ‘persons’ which should be subjected to capital punishment, but trillionaires should be forced to transition into billionaires, and billionaires should be euthanised through taxation.

[–] norealme@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Everyone who goes into politics wants money. Musk gives them money. Profit!

[–] CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Musk should consider skipping the middle man and paying citizens directly for their votes. Proportional to his wealth. Like the taxes we used to charge the wealthy.

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[–] Admetus@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Don't forget cryptocurrency (UK Reform party big whoopsie)

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

You'd think if the crypto was any good, they could just bribe anonymously.

[–] Akasazh@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Turns out that taking hubris to far, thinking that the public will suck it all up just because they always did does have its turning point.

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