Started out with a good cause, but it was quickly turned to shit by selfish, evil people. Not the first time it's happened in France, I'm afraid.
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It's a classic problem with mass civil disobedience. All the elites have to do is simply wait for a selfish minority who'll choose to use the opportunity to enrich themselves at the expense of their fellows. Then they can frame the entire movement as violent and base.
Im not advocating against civil disobedience, but you need solidarity to avoid this.
Greed. Its in all of us, and the filthy rich love exploiting the them, as they easier to manipulate.
Greed. Its in all of us
This is something the greedy want you to believe, and an insult to the majority of humanity who would never act like this.
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Bad people distort narratives regardless of the actions of others.... No matter what she did, my first wife was always the victim. DARVO is a thing, identify it and ignore it. These people looting a market for resources after a long night of rioting does not disqualify their complaints. Their complaints must be evaluated and addressed independently of their reaction to the original violation against them.
Their complaints must be evaluated and addressed independently of their reaction
I 100% agree.
These people looting a market for resources after a long night of rioting
But this doesn't mean that revolutionary action demands we hold the delusional belief that this market was looted because the protestors were on the brink of starvation or had no access to clean water or medical supplies.
They smashed that shop to bits because it was fun and an opportunity to rob some vapes.
All the elites have to do is simply wait for a selfish minority who'll choose to use the opportunity to enrich themselves at the expense of their fellows.
Which is EXACTLY what the Elites do as matter of routine. They just don't like it when it gets turned on THEM.
So I'm sure you'll agree it's much better to loot an apple store or burn down a billionaires mansion rather than smash a corner shop to bits and assault other working class people.
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It's still a good cause. Just because a few hundred assholes take advantage of the situation doesn't mean the hundred of thousands that went to the street to protest peacefully are wrong
FYI the topic of protest was "life is too expensive." So there's really no mystery as to why people are stealing.
More generally, looting is to be expected in a society that constantly tells us the meaning of life and our our moral worth is based on what we own, all the while denying most people any chance to actually own anything. Looting is one of the monstrous avatars of capitalism.
Trickle Down Economics created all these Sociopathic Oligarchs, and it has been obvious for decades that the benefits of Trickle Down Economics were fraudulent from the beginning. They refuse to surrender Trickle Down, so now society is spontaneously pivoting to Robin Hood Economics, and it's going to spread.
It happens in every worthwhile protest. If you see it more it's partly because the media wants you to, partly because things are so bad your country has been letting more people feel this is okay.
Also, everyone thinks the French revolution was so cool, but beheadings weren't normal back then either, it probably wasn't the most well-spoken of the protestors doing that violence either.
How do you know they're selfish, evil people?
Yo can't see?
I mean I see people stealing stuff, but there are a lot of valid reasons for stealing. I'm just wondering how they know the motivation behind the stealing.
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I don't give a hoot about the goods from a giant corporation. Take it all, and take the fixtures and equipment, too. Insurance will have to cover it, and another giant corporation will feel the effects, too.
Hands off Mom & Pop shops, they're not the problem, they're part of the solution.
Insurance will have to cover it, and another giant corporation will feel the effects, too.
Who do you think pays for the insurance?
You think they just give it away for free?
The giant corporation...I think you need to re-read their comment. They don't care about any losses for major corps (honestly a fully reasonable position) but condemned theft or destruction against businesses owned by regular people.
In this situation two major corps suffer loses, that's a win for the common folk.
The giant corporations love this. Majority of these shops will go under and big business can scoop up these properties for cheap. Looting is trashy and makes the common folk want more security.
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If they're looting from a business with a c-suite - fuck 'em, let it burn.
Looting from an independent business is scum.
A much stronger message would be sent if multinational chains were left in ruins, but the locally owned businesses untouched and protected.
“C'est pas la cause!”; an extraordinary brave act while surrounded by pubescent morons with short fuses.
Unpopular opinion but these looting are destroying any legitimacy protesters have. It's so cringe.
There were around 6 to 800 000 people across the country. There's been a handful of incidents, looting included, in a handful of cities, by a small number of people. It's going to happen. Saying it delegitimizes the whole movement is just playing the fascist agenda.
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The loot is also given to people in need. It’s not just greed. https://loops.video/v/iPH3tC5-W8
Edit: Also the French cops seem to be false-flagging here and there:
Supposedly trying to get to protestors while other cops watch: https://mamot.fr/@paratos@social.ixcat.ovh/117376147530779571
Setting a trashbin on fire. His pal in the black hoodie seems to have a gun holster (triangular shape in his back): https://mamot.fr/@antyfaszysta.bsky.social@bsky.brid.gy/117462157042917063
Stealing shoes from a damaged shop, right into the police motorcycles: https://mamot.fr/@sebu@framapiaf.org/117463417826681166
Violent "protestors" accessing police vehicle as needed: https://mamot.fr/@antyfaszysta.bsky.social@bsky.brid.gy/117464474742537372
Can someone translate this? Is there anything in there, why specifically she's trying to stop them, like is it her shop or sth?
She is basically saying stop stop! this shop is not the cause (not what we are protesting about)
they say that he (the shopkeeper) is not her father
the white guy comes over and says they won't listen to her and she could get injured
She keeps shouting: why are you doing this, this is not the cause
inside they are saying take the wine while the shopkeeper looks on sadly
at the end they say they went shopping! and does anyone want some shampoo or ice
Will leave to someone actually french to translate but this is the gist of it i think
I can confirm that's basically it
This is so stupid. They ruin the look of the protest for pennies. They don't even have bags so whatever they take isn't worth even a 10th of a week's grocery shopping.
They ruin the look of the protest for pennies
The guys took fruits and shampoo, the protest is against the cost of living!
Bizarely some other shops were more heavily guarded by cops, like the chocolate family shop of president's wife
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People will militantly defend their own bondage.
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