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[–] Donkter@lemmy.world 62 points 1 year ago (2 children)

talks about the state of the world, good and bad, and it's causes.

This guy: "Politics! Not again!"

[–] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You say that untill your grandma starts talking about how much she wishes trans people should be deported

[–] Donkter@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Yeah I hate when people talk about bigotry and hate.

[–] BowtiesAreCool@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

“Grandma shut up you old hag bigot”

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 5 points 1 year ago

How dare you try to mobilise your community to solve problems! Thinking about the world's problems is for the rich and powerful. Us working class people want no part in it!

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 23 points 1 year ago (3 children)

There are 2 types of people. Those who engage with politics and use it to bend the world to their will. And those who are ignorant of politics who get taken advantage of by those who are engaged.

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well no, there's clearly a third group who is compulsively obsessed with consuming and repeating political memes in a way that isn't actually giving them any power or agency.

[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 2 points 1 year ago

We call that third group Lemmings.

[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Those who engage with politics and use it to bend the world to their will.

So... billionaires, and the rest of us?

[–] Isoprenoid@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

and the rest of us?

Either make the waves, ride the waves, be part of the wave, or try to walk against the wave.

We all want to be the makers but the majority of us won't be. Try to ride the waves.

[–] gens@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

There are two types of people. Those who talk about politics. And those who don't want to talk to people who see everything in black and white.

[–] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There are two types of people. Those that can extrapolate from incomplete data

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

This made me cackle, thanks

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago
[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

I love how you've set up a false dichotomy to complain about lack of nuance.

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee -2 points 1 year ago

To say everything is in a grey area ignores the grey area of that statement itself where some things must be black and white.

Its like whats the exception to the rule that every rule has an exception.

[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

“We want a whole race perpetually in pursuit of the rainbow’s end, never honest, nor kind, nor happy now, but always using as mere fuel wherewith to heap the alter of the future every real gift which is offered them in the Present.”

  • Screwtape, "The Screwtape Letters", C.S. Lewis

Screwtape (and fucking Putin and Elon) want to remind us all to talk over and past each-other, and really focus on what divides us, this Thanksgiving.

They hope we all do our best to ensure that each of our normal safety nets are as alienated as possible, in preparation for whatever bullshit they want to push on us next.

Let's all remember that our individual differences in opinion on how to solve their oppressive regimes are the best way to keep us from seeing that we're in a class war, not a political one.

Edit: And Screwtape sure as shit needs us not on speaking terms with the blue collar workforce who make up at least half of the union we will need to form, before this is all over.

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 2 points 1 year ago

Omg I loved that series - one of the more deep things I've read, at the time and possibly still since as well.

I particularly remember the gluttony example - it's not about an amount of food so much as caring about food, more than Remember The Human i.e. the wait staff who brings it to you.

He definitely helped shape my personality, in caring about people over "rightness of stuff" - like if the toast isn't perfect but good enough, now I'll still tip.

There are just some things worth paying attention to, and everything else should kinda fade away into the background as being irrelevant.

[–] jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Trying to figure out if your uncle has a case of MAGA or early stage dementia. Could go either way.

[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 6 points 1 year ago

Could be both!

[–] ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't be such a downer. Who doesn't love finding out that their friends and family have become deranged?

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

And no one else will talk to them.

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

Username checks out.

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

And this does the same thing here on Lemmy...

[–] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Everyone has 1 vote. The influence of that 1 vote on your life is probably smaller than that of an affectionate relationship with that relative. Imo political confrontations are better kept for the street/pub/doorstep. The unspoken agreement not to touch on the topic must come from both sides though.

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

yes but there is more to politics than voting

[–] domdanial@reddthat.com 4 points 1 year ago

Right? How you vote is typically your outlook on life and people. It's a pretty important litmus test for most people.

[–] Senal@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I disagree, the consequences of how people see and interact with you based on that one vote isn't separate from any other consequences the vote has.

[–] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Ok that is a fair point ig

[–] ZoopZeZoop@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago
[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Thet should have sorted this out before the election.