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Certainly not

[–] n3m37h@sh.itjust.works 47 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Yes, but I am an asshole at the same time

[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

I am very very good. At being an asshole.

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[–] discocactus@lemmy.world 38 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Negative, I am a meat popsicle.

[–] portifornia@piefed.social 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well...

You never call, you never write! ... You're the nastiest dirtbag I know in this stinking city! ... If you don't wanna talk to your mother, just avoid me like usual, huh?

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[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Define "good".

I'm not Fred Rogers good. I know that much.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Fred Rogers is the bar I try and constantly fall short on.

[–] SourDragon@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Don't feel bad about it. He wouldn't judge you for it, so why should anyone else? Especially yourself?

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

He still likes you just the way you are.

[–] moondoggie@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yeah, but Billy Joel loves you just the way you are

[–] urushitan@kakera.kintsugi.moe 5 points 1 week ago

And Rihanna loves the way you lie

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[–] stopforgettingit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Asweet@piefed.ca 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes, exactly what I was going to say.

It’s a continuous process, not an innate quality.

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[–] ryven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I don't like to say "good person" and "bad person" because I feel like it implies that there is some objective scale of goodness that people can be compared to, and I think that is simply not the case. So I would rather think of this question as "Do you have a positive opinion of yourself?"

No, no I don't. My opinion of myself is extremely negative.

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 10 points 1 week ago

I think there are many--possibly even most--"bad people" who have positive opinions of themselves. Dark triad and all that.

And then of course plenty of "good people" with self-esteem issues who will always have a bad opinion of themselves.

There should be at least a degree of objectivity when it comes to determining goodness. The bar might be low, but there is a difference between somebody who generally thinks of others (considerately) and who generally does not.

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[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I will leave that judgment to whomever eats me.

[–] ElChinchilla@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

What show had people's insides be spaghetti? Rick and Morty i am pretty sure. Weird fucking episode. Poignant and absurd.

[–] SourDragon@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Chaotic good

Absolutely not.

[–] darthsundhaft@piefed.social 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No. I have many regrets. I try to do good but at the end of the day, I am a coward.

[–] BitUnWise@programming.dev 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

It's better to fail at being good than to succeed at being evil

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[–] Hakuso@scribe.disroot.org 11 points 1 week ago

I think that's a relative matter...

I mean do I think I'ma good person? Not really.

Do I look around and go "What the fuck is wrong with these sociopaths?" Yes, very much so.

[–] daggermoon@piefed.world 10 points 1 week ago

I don't like the person I used to be. I'd like to think i'm a descent person now.

[–] capuccino@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I can't make that kind of judgement to myself. Some people would say that I'm, others would say not.

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[–] sydd@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Like the sum total of me, including the past? I'm a good person now, but I used to be a pretty shitty person by most metrics. Like, deplorable.

[–] raptore39@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago

Like must people I have kneejerk opinions and reactions, though I analyze them before I let them loose. I ask myself "what would a good person do?" and then I do that.

[–] godsammitdam@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago

I try my best. I lead life with empathy for all people and creatures. We've all only got one world after all.

[–] Thoven@lemdro.id 5 points 1 week ago

I think I put more good into the world than bad. Whether I put in more good than I've consumed, I wonder about that a lot. I've been very fortunate in life.

[–] Hermit_Lailoken@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Most of the time. I work at being good, kind to strangers, kind to service people,kind to myself.

[–] Vanth@reddthat.com 5 points 1 week ago

Yes. I used to say "no" but that was some fucked up internalized religious self-hate shit. I am good. Not perfect, but definitely good within my moral framework and the framework of any people I care about. I have one particular area I'm wrestling with to be "better" and I find it's far more useful to focus on improving that than on self-flagellating over how "bad" I am.

[–] Iconoclast@feddit.uk 5 points 1 week ago

My moral compass operates on the principle: "If everyone else did what I do, would it make the world a better or worse place?" If the answer is worse, I generally don't do it - with a few exceptions. I think this way of thinking also gives some perspective on the true impact of even small things. Throwing a candy wrapper on the ground might not seem like a big deal but if everyone does it we'll drown in trash. Or conversely, if everyone picked a single piece of trash from the ground and put it in the garbage even once a week, the world would be litter-free in no time. Me doing the little thing is doing what can realistically be expected from one person.

Also my job entails locally reversing entropy so you could say I'm taking concrete steps to make the world a bit better every day. And my customers are thankful for it.

[–] megane_kun@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Not even by my own standards, which is not much. Do I try? Sometimes.

I try to be good whenever I can remember or if the opportunity is presented to me without much cost. Being good has a cost in terms of effort and discipline, and yes, I fail at that. For example: I may look the other way whenever someone's suffering, but when I can, I try to do what I can.

And this is why I hate it when people say I am a good person. I know I am not, that I can do so much more. I don't even think I'm worth the resources I consume.

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[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I think our moral intuitions are out of alignment with a logical consideration of good and bad. So I'm not a bad person according to my moral intuitions (not the same thing as being a good person) but also pretty much everyone (including me) is a bad person according to logical consideration.

(My logic is that only humans appear to be moral agents, but non-human animals deserve moral consideration and there are a lot more non-human animals than there are humans. Thus even seemingly simple questions like "Is it good to save someone's life?" depend on whether it is better to prevent that person from eating meat by letting him die or to have him contribute to environmental degradation by remaining alive, and thereby prevent wild animals that would have suffered from being born. The effect on the person is not the major deciding factor.)

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (7 children)

No. And I'm highly suspicious of anyone claiming to be.

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I think I do more good than harm and am satisfied enough with that. Not like there's a punch card system where I can do 9 good things and get a free pass to do something bad but I know I'll accidentally screw things up sometimes or make intentional decisions where the least bad option available still isn't great.

[–] toynbee@piefed.social 4 points 1 week ago

A long time ago, I was trying to figure out why I had so much trouble making friends. I talked to the few connections I had and did some online searches. Paraphrasing, I found an analysis similar to the following:

Friendship is like two people holding containers of water. In this metaphor, one person is holding a drinking glass, one is holding a bucket. If the person with the drinking glass offers ever bit of water they have, the person with the bucket feels it's inadequate. If the person with the bucket offers all of their water, the other person feels overwhelmed.

When I read that, I was quite a bit younger and found it fairly profound. I shared it publicly in several places. Every person who saw it - including those I considered to be the metaphorical drinking glass people - declared themselves the bucket person. I did the same of myself so, whether I was right or wrong, I can't blame any of those people.

In conclusion, I try to be a good person and I think I largely succeed, but experience has taught me that I shouldn't trust people's judgment of themselves. I'd like to think I'm an exception, but I'm no more exempt from this than anyone else I've observed, just - predictably - less able to see it in myself.

[–] bizarroland@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

I would say that I'm a good enough person.

I do the things that good people do because it feels like the right thing to do, up until the point where I feel like I'm risking overextending myself and then I stop doing that.

I feel bad when I do not do a good thing.

At the same time I know I have done bad things. I have accepted my fault in those situations and apologized to the people that I have hurt in the past and I am still trying to become a better person. So I am good enough to pass for a good person, but I am not an objectively purely good person.

But then again, no one is.

Eh, I try. I think I succeed more often than not, but most bad people think they're good, right? I try to calibrate against the broader society as a whole, but it often seems like society isn't really aligned with goodness anyway. So here I am, trying to suss out the good parts of society and align with that, and trying to suss out the bad parts and follow my own moral compass there. But again, bad people probably generally think they're good, so it's a bit of a conundrum innit?

Minimize harm to others, and try to help as much as you can. Except sometimes harming bad people somewhat is good, and sometimes help is counterproductive.

I'm confident that I am a person. I try to emulate what good is like. Life is hard.

[–] Fondots@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

I think my impact on the world is a nut positive. I make it a point to help other people when I can, I've given a bunch of strangers a jumpstart in the parking lot, helped them change a tire, gave a stranded bicyclist a lift home when his pedal broke, clear my schedule to help my friends move, put my shopping cart back the right way and even sometimes straighten out the ones that were carelessly pushed in the general direction of the cart corral by some degenerate, and generally try not to be a bother to others.

As for whether that makes me a good person, I think that's kind of up for debate. At my core, my motivations tend to be pretty selfish. I do those good deeds because I want others to do the same kinds of things for me. If I need help moving, I can count on a small army of friends and acquaintances showing up to help me because I've always made time for them. I want to live in a world where other people treat me the right way, and if I'm not even willing to do that, why should I count on others to do that? Not that it's all a 1:1 transactional thing, I don't expect every good deed I do to directly come back around to benefit me, but I do kind of hope that I'm sort of kicking off a chain of "paying it forward" that maybe inspires even more people to do the same and eventually I get to be the recipient of some random acts of kindness.

So a lot of the time it's not really some sort of selfless altruism that drives me to do the right thing, which is a big part of what people imagine when they think of a "good" person.

[–] Malica@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'm a person capable of being good or bad. I try very hard to be good, I've failed once or twice.

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[–] mrmisses@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

No. I'm a piece of shit.

[–] NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

No. I'm barely even a functional organism for about 90% of the day.

(But hey, I'm not a politician or a vacuous online personality, so I've got that going for me)

[–] JapaneseJudas@fedinsfw.app 4 points 1 week ago

I don't really think that there are good people. I don't mean it as cynical as it sounds. I KNOW there are bad people. I don't think I'm one of those.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

A good person thst can do, bad things

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