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[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Why is the word "causation" photoshopped on? What word was there originally that would have changed the meaning enough to warrant pasting a different word there?

[–] ParadoxSeahorse@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

OP replaced “correlation”

[–] ieGod@lemmy.zip 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

In the civilized world, you don't need to struggle for health care.

[–] heartSagan5@lemmy.zip 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I guess the US is not a civilized world. Makes sense since they had “gladiator-like” fights on the South Lawn.

Can confirm, the US is definitely not a part of the civilized world.

[–] laserm@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago

Here everyone can afford insurance since it's mandatory and tied to your paycheck

[–] kamen@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Is this an US joke I'm too European to get?

[–] modus@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Owning and Maintaining a horse is expensive. So is private health insurance. Most Americans can't afford either.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

you don't have horses in europe?

pretty sure you do, as you're always winning dressage.

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 141 points 2 days ago (38 children)

People who live longer:

People who drink a glass of wine every night.

People who buy organic and cook whole foods at home.

People who spend 30+ minutes a day being activr/at the gym.

People who get 9+ hours of sleep every night.

People who have less chronic stress.

People who get regular checkups/screenings at the doctor.

So... rich people that have the time and can afford to do all of those things or have them done for them.

[–] Devial@lemmy.world 45 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The glass of wine is likely due to a selection bias in Tea Total people. Most people who are completely sober, are so either because they are recovering alcoholics, or have other health issues.

Most people who are healthy and have no prior alcoholism issues drink at least occasionaly, which introduces a selection bias favouring people with health issues as strict non drinkers, which causes not drinking at all to be correlated with worse health than drinking occasionally.

[–] psud@aussie.zone 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

That's teetotal, nothing to do with the nice hot cuppa

Also last time I saw teetotalers being less healthy than occasional drinkers was decades ago before never drinking became normal among the youth as they came of age

Back then the only reason to not drink was to treat alcoholism or a serious problem. Now people abstain because their friends do

[–] TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Idk... a lot of gen Z people I know just don't drink at all

[–] tmyakal@infosec.pub 60 points 1 day ago (1 children)

OP is referring to the j-curve historically seen in studies about drinking. Because researchers didn't control for people who stopped drinking after years of abuse or people who couldn't drink because of other health issues, it looked like having 0 drinks per day led to worse health outcomes than 1-2 drinks per day. Because of that, many health organizations spent decades telling people that 1-2 drinks per day was better for you than 0 drinks per day.

Someone finally controlled for those variables a few years ago, and the j-curve vanished. Most health organizations now say they're is no amount of alcohol that is safe to consume.

So it's got nothing to do with Gen Z drinking habit specifically, and the science has been corrected since. But a lot of people still internalized and parrot the "1-2 drinks is healthy" thing.

[–] gandalf_der_13te@feddit.org 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

i get what you're saying, but what i'm wondering is, while alcohol is bad for your liver and damages your health in that way, it also leads to social occasions and less loneliness, i guess. so you might have psychological improvements; and was that also tested for?

[–] tmyakal@infosec.pub 3 points 18 hours ago

Alcohol on its own does not cause social occasions or reduce loneliness. Plenty of people drink alone, and plenty of people gather socially without drinking.

That said, while the advice from a health standpoint is that no amount of alcohol is completely safe to drink, humans do risky shit all the time for fun or convenience. More people get hurt in car accidents than develop alcohol-related diseases, but no one is stopping driving. The difference in outcomes between people who have zero drinks per day versus 1-2 drinks per day is much less than the difference between 1-2 and 5+ drinks. So occasional/light drinking is still relatively low-risk. It's just not actively good for you as previously thought.

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[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Health care. Not insurance. Care.

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 1 points 17 hours ago

In what country is having insurance superior to having care? The care is always the goal.

[–] xav@programming.dev 3 points 1 day ago

Depends on the country.

[–] Tiger_Man_@szmer.info 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)
[–] gandalf_der_13te@feddit.org 1 points 21 hours ago

well, here in austria, if i'm correctly informed, there is free healthcare for anyone under 27, or anyone who has a job. everyone else can (has to?) get private insurance, for which they have to pay out of pocket.

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 1 points 22 hours ago

I would change "health insurance" to "health care". I have had better care when uninsured and negotiating prices in cash than when I had terrible health insurance I couldn't afford to use and never got any care.

[–] Quexotic@infosec.pub 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)
[–] gandalf_der_13te@feddit.org 2 points 21 hours ago

camden does kinda sound like an out-of-this-world name now that i think about it

[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

This goes for all animals btw. Their company makes us live longer. Very well established research.

It goes for human companionship too. Humans live longer with company.

[–] TrumpetX@programming.dev 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

All these comments are great, but the real mystery is:

Why did someone overlay a different font on top of the original graphic rather than just make a whole new graphic? Like, the work is exactly the same, and the rest of us can view sane font placement.

[–] fake@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Original probably said 'correlation' when it should be causation. The correlation is established in the headline.

Apparently someone took that personally.

[–] FundMECFS@piefed.zip 5 points 1 day ago

That was exactly what I did lmfao. It was technically incorrect, so I made it technically correct lol.

[–] gandalf_der_13te@feddit.org 1 points 21 hours ago

because changing 1 word is less work than changing the whole text?

[–] LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Most horse people I know (me included) are BROKE because we choose to have horse(s) when we really shouldn't. Bad financial decisions for sure, but most horse people have a passion for the creatures and don't let things like finances get in the way.

There have been days where I've skipped meals in order to buy my horse her supplements. Not many days, but a couple. My bond with horses is what keeps me going when I'm at my lowest, so I refuse to give them up. My mom and grandma will occasionally sneak me a few bucks to help because they're almost as invested in my horse as I am.

Here's the horse tax:

[–] Lemmine@feddit.org 4 points 1 day ago

Oh hi Sandy

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[–] gilesroberts@feddit.uk 35 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

In the UK where everyone has decent basic health care on average you live 2 years shorter if you own a horse. It's worse than riding a motorcycle (1 year shorter). It turns out that owning a big animal that will kick you if you look at it funny or throw you off if it gets startled by a packet of crisps in the road isn't that great for your health.

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[–] BallShapedMan@lemmy.world 41 points 2 days ago

And are getting exercise, eating healthy, etc.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Kind of like all the sugar substitute correlation “studies” that keep saying sugar substitutes cause the same diseases that being obese cause. Hmmm, I wonder who typically consumes sugar substitutes…

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[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 16 points 1 day ago

Also, if you own horses, you're probably going out to take care of them on a daily basis, which means you get at least a little bit of mild exercise every day. That would help a lot, compared to people who are entirely sedentary.

[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 24 points 2 days ago (5 children)

You don’t typically have a horse without money.

[–] zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev 51 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Typically all horses have no money. What would a horse even do with it anyway. And they don't even have pockets to put in it.

[–] ickplant@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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