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[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 158 points 1 week ago (63 children)

This is exactly why there needs to be a separation between church and state. How can you trust someone to run the country, when all their decisions are grounded in magical thinking?

[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Umm.. we have that. What we lack is law enforcement.

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[–] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 62 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Main-charactering. Obviously it has to happen during their lifetime because otherwise it would mean they're just as unimportant as the rest of us.

[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago

Which is ironic because Vance is basically that NPC whose dialog everyone skips all the time because it's so poorly written.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 57 points 1 week ago (6 children)

If you say the things these people say, but in Arabic, they are indistinguishable from bin laden, Khomeini, KSM, and all the other religious extremists that the US fears.

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[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 37 points 1 week ago (8 children)

According to the Bible, there will be some sort of ultimate showdown between good and evil when the world ends. “Good” is preordained to win. Therefore, some religious nuts think that by helping the world to end, they’re helping fulfill god’s plan.

In my opinion, they’re just giving themselves license to be cruel, hateful bastards.

I don’t know the motivation of nuts who don’t claim to follow the Bible, but I suspect the previous sentence still applies.

[–] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Don't have to preserve the environment for future generations either if you think you're getting raptured out of it.

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[–] copygirl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 week ago

Doesn't the Bible also say that there's nothing you can do to bring the end times around faster?

So why not do objectively good things until then, instead?

Maybe it's one of gods tests, and he wants to see if you're a good person even in the face of inevitability.

I can't with these religious people.

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[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I don't want to hear anyone ever again try to tell me that women can't be good leaders because they are too emotional or delusional. Look at this weirdo.

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[–] MadBits@europe.pub 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Because they are in death cults, fantasizing about death.

[–] myyass@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

And they're too chicken to zero themselves.

[–] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago

Evangelicals are fucking nuts

[–] hexdream@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago

He is just playing to the base. This weasel will say anything and turn on a dime if it suits his purposes. Remember what he said about Trump before he became vice president...

[–] pilferjinx@piefed.social 19 points 1 week ago (13 children)

The unknown is scary. Prophecy fills in that anxiety. Religion, especially the Abrahamic religion, is for the spiritually lazy. The jewish God (YHWH, God, Allah) is a usurper, a thief, and dominator of the material. We're all spiritual beings and we don't need lesser gods to connect with each other within this universe. I know it sounds kinda cheesy, but loving kindness should be our spiritual path in this material world.

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[–] weps@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (2 children)

how can you be evangelical and not think that Trump is the antichrist in that story

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 week ago

Because they're all really really really stupid?

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[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Because their religion tells them they can fuck up this world and when it ends, they get into paradise because God will give them a universal Mulligan.

Reality: nothing happens, they become high fat worm food, then high fat worm shit.

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[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Went looking for context, and he just made that connection without prompting. They asked if we were in the end times and he rambled a bit using many words to say "don't know, but maybe" and basically took credit for hypothetical end times being because of him as if it were a cool outcome...

It's bad enough when these folks assert their work is "god's" work, but the "it'd be cool if my work causes the end time" angle is just....

[–] GreenShimada@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

It's because the context is 2 layers down. FactPostNews is anti-Trump and covering batshit crazy stuff like this. But the interview itself was with an Evangelical podcaster named Bryce Crawford. He directly and specifically asked Vance about the End Times. From an article on the interview and that specific quote:

"What do you think about the end times?" Bryce Crawford asked, referring to the Christian belief that the world as we currently know it will someday end, and that Jesus will return. "Do you think it's here? Do you think it's coming?"

Vance replied that he has "always been fascinated" by eschatology and stated that the Antichrist, a figure in Christian lore who will allegedly pose as a Jesus-like figure, may be "walking among us." The vice president also added that he is "ok" with his actions leading to the end times if that is what happens:

"Do I think that we're in the end times? I don't know. And I think that it's probably bad for me spiritually to focus too much on it because there are like, things that you gotta do. I gotta be good to my wife. I gotta be good to my kids. I have to be as good of a leader as I can for the United States of America. And so, I think that focusing on – while I'm fascinated by it – focusing on it is, too much of it can be very bad. I think that there are like, things about the world that make me feel like not shocked if the Antichrist was walking among us. But again, I try not to focus too much on it....So, I tend to think like, while I wouldn't be shocked if we are living in the end times, what I'm trying to focus on is doing as much of God's work as possible right now. And if that leads to the end times, ok. And if that leads to you know, us building a better world that thrives and survives for a very long time after I'm gone, that's great too."

Edit: article: https://uk.news.yahoo.com/jd-vance-says-doing-god-223836378.html

[–] NEZ27@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 week ago

Even with context that is pretty alarming for a world leader to be saying.

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[–] FluidBeef@quokk.au 18 points 1 week ago

Because everyone in this life hates them, including their own family.

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

You know your administration is doing a bad job when you use the end of the world as a selling point.

[–] tutter@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 1 week ago

Death cult!

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (4 children)

because they think they'll be the last ones standing, and all the gays, trans, brown people, and other undesirables will be the ones dying.

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[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 week ago

I mean, christianism was an apocalyptic cult that though that the world was going to end at around 100 aD

They are almost 2000 years late with their gran finale.

[–] BigBoyShuanzee@aussie.zone 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

They're deeply closeted gay people and they want to die and go to heaven before they're found out for being giant pieces of shit.

Now I don't believe God exists.. But every single person right or left who talks about God misunderstands the idea of Omnipotence and omnipresence..

They want to say God loves everyone but hates gay people. They want to say that their ideas are right and everyone else is wrong.

Omnipotence and omnipresence god means he decided to create all the billionaires years ago and he knew everything they were all going to do for the entirety of their lives and he still did it. The idea that a god would exist and just decide that Trump and the Kardashians are somehow important and starving and dying children are somehow unimportant.. it makes me uninterested in the idea of a god.

I don't believe God exists. Life is pain and no idea of a god will make me feel better about this world.

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[–] MasutaHarada@thelemmy.club 14 points 1 week ago

Because in the end of world situation it kinda pointless to ask for accountability , responsibility , or something related to those pos which they like because they do that every time.

[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

These wackos want the world to end.

[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)

The Bible starts and ends with the slaughter of the unrighteous, which means you.

When Jesus returns, He will be accompanied by legions of angels, and they will butcher every non-believer. The resulting lake of blood will be miles wide and "as deep as a horse's bridle".

Then, they will cast all of the non-Christians into Hell for eternal torture.

That is Christianity.

(Islam and Judaism are no better, they all revel in the murder of the non-believers)

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[–] kboos1@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Because the end of the world means that if they die then it's get out jail free card and they get their gold ticket to heaven.

[–] likebudda@reddthat.com 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It would be the only concrete proof for them that their religion isn't a lie. If I was Israeli I don't think I'd be comfortable with the "support" I get from Evangelical Christians.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It would be the only concrete proof for them that their religion isn’t a lie.

Evangelicals have an entire grab-bag of faith healing and "I saw Angels in my oatmeal" testimonials and apocryphal accounts of magic golden tablets that you can only read inside a man's hat. FFS, there's an entire Ark Adventure exhibit in Kentucky. Nevermind the crushing volume of religious artifacts and icons and reliquaries scattered all through Europe, North Africa, and the Middle East. No shortage of things religious people can point to as "proof" enough to satisfy themselves.

Modern Millenarianism isn't just proof, it's vindication. It's a final triumphant Fuck You to the heretics, as you're wisked off into the box seats at the right hand of the Correct Kind Of Jesus to point and laugh at all the infidels who didn't do the correct religion correctly.

If I was Israeli I don’t think I’d be comfortable with the “support” I get from Evangelical Christians.

Zionists have their own spin on things, wherein they're proven right and all the goys get humiliated. In their version, the Israelis rule humanity for a thousand years from a Utopian Kingdom occupied by the Correct Jews. And then God showers them with blessings so long as they do the correct number of animal sacrifices on the correctly sanctified big stone table in the correct big stone building using the correct magic words.

Everyone's thinking they've got the magic beans and the other person is being stuck with the dried up milk cow. That's what keeps the engine turning.

[–] kibblebits@quokk.au 9 points 1 week ago

The best time to leave was a while ago. The next best time to leave is now.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 8 points 1 week ago

yeah so I was helping the antichrist to start the end times for jesus so im totally going to heaven.

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