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In a time when an iPhone can be preordered, customized, and on its way to your doorstep all through a touch-screen tap, it’s almost quaint to remember that people used to camp out for smartphone releases. That was once the regular routine of Andrew Erickson, a longtime tech YouTuber, who recalled to me with a mixture of nostalgia and awe the time he braved the rain at 4:30 a.m. to join a line for the newest iPhone. The line snaked through the mall, nearly reaching the parking lot.

Next month, when Apple is expected to launch the iPhone 18 Pro, Erickson has no plans to even buy the phone, let alone fight crowds for it. Instead, along with a growing number of Americans, Erickson is buying used. He’s fed up with incremental improvements in gadgets, he told me, and is more interested in getting an old version of the iPhone 17 Pro when it hits the secondhand market at a discount. Already, almost half of his current devices were acquired secondhand, and as electronics prices soar amid an AI-fueled chip shortage, he expects that portion to grow. “The argument’s just getting weaker and weaker to buy brand-new,” he said.

Based on the numbers, old tech products are indeed being looked at in a new light. Globally, the size of the industry could reach $153.4 billion this year, up from $104.1 billion four years ago. The used-smartphone market alone is expected to grow by more than 12 percent in 2026, according to the International Data Corporation, which forecasts that the market for new smartphones will experience a record drop this year. Growth in secondhand electronics and refurbished gadgets that have been restored to full working condition now outpaces that of new products on eBay, the e-commerce giant reports.

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

About a year ago I bought a ulefone armour 29, the first phone I've been excited about since 10 years at least.

Its has all the standard features like a 50 mpixel camera, etc but it also has a 20.000+ mAh battery that lasts a week, it has a real FLIR infra red camera which works quite well, a night vision camera, a huge LED light bank that can light up a complete garden or burn out youtbeye balls if you stare into it. It has a small display on the back that can show a clock or compass or camera display even, without using the main screen. It also has emergency red blue flash lights that can make someone think you're police if you put it on your dashboard.

Its also huge and heavy, 700+ grams. Its built like a tank and I've only been able to find one protection case for it as it kinda sorta doesn't really need one. Hell, this thing can be used as a self defense weapon of someone attacks you. At night, with a single button I activate that light and my attacker will not break able to see anything for minutes and a single smack in the face with this thing will make you reconsider life choices.

Yeah, most of these features are semi useful at best but boy is it fun for a nerd to use it.

Its also a great conversation piece. Anytime I pull this monster out, people look, and the questions start.

My next phone will need to have at least all these features and more. Add a UV camera, add a Geiger counter, add whatever feature you can think of. That will make me buy a nre phone again, nothing else will.

Edit: the phone does have a number of downsides, of course. Customer support is nonsexist as far as I can tell, software is a bit shaky at times, as are updates. The main camera is good enough but not great. But all those downsides make little difference to me, I love this phone

[–] ReasonablyStressed@beehaw.org 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I'm on the last iPhone mini. I refuse to upgrade because I refuse to use phones above 6". It's insane to me that everybody wants to use shovels instead of phones.

[–] Cherry@piefed.social 9 points 1 day ago

My issue isnt what a new phone offrers, its what it is taking that is now the issue, and impacting my decision.

[–] xianjam@programming.dev 39 points 1 day ago (1 children)

As someone who exclusively shops second-hand the mere existence of this article feels like an omen for prices.

[–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 day ago

The prices of new electronics have skyrocketed, the used market always follows so you're right to be worried.

[–] Arghblarg@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

5G network upgrade ensures the used phone market in Canada is a lot more limited than it was one year ago.

I'm sure they'll come up with some other reason to force us all to upgrade soon enough. Wife and I are seriously looking at Linux phones or 5G-capable flip phones for our next refresh, due to Google's noose-tightening bullshit.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] definitemaybe@lemmy.ca 4 points 12 hours ago

Most (all?) Canadian carriers shut down/are shutting down 2G and 3G, so older phones don't work at all.

It also means that locations that have spotty 4G connectivity can have big dead zones now, for non-5G-enabled devices, that used to be covered by 3G bands.

Even some 5G phones are affected. Like, I have an international model phone that has most but not all Rogers 4G/5G bands that used to fall back to 3G, but now is just worse.

[–] st3ph3n@midwest.social 20 points 1 day ago (3 children)

They'll force you to upgrade by making the software run shittier and shittier on your old hardware with each update. That, and your not-easily-replaceable battery will inevitably leave the chat before you are ready to upgrade.

[–] TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 hours ago

The trick is to buy a used phone every year or two. It will be new enough and the previous owner took the biggest depreciation hit on your behalf. Personally, I like to stay two years behind, because it’s cheaper that way.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 day ago

which is why you only buy unlockable android phones, lineageOS is if anything only going to make your device faster every update.

[–] realitista@lemmus.org 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The key here is to know when to stop upgrading. With old Apple devices I always hang back a version or two and don't ever upgrade to the last version that supports your hardware.

[–] i_am_not_a_robot@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is not good for security.

[–] realitista@lemmus.org 4 points 1 day ago

Well if you're going for perfect, just buy new devices when the old one gets slow like they want you to.

[–] realitista@lemmus.org 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I can't wait until we get replaceable battery phones in the EU.

[–] jbloggs777@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 day ago

Someone mentioned Fairphone here... which seems to have just that.

[–] missingno@fedia.io 14 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I've had my Galaxy S9+ for roughly eight years now. The battery doesn't hold much charge, and the screen has this known bug where it stays completely black unless I do this funny workaround by activating Always On Display first and only then turning the screen on.

But everything on the market now comes with some catch, I really don't want to give up that SD slot. And I'm unemployed and prices are fucked. So I'll ride this thing out until it fully dies - which feels like it may happen any day now, honestly...

[–] TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 hours ago

So you run Lineage or Graphene on it? The default Android has been without security updates for years by this point, as Samsung just loves to create e-waste to increase shareholder value.

[–] Wahots@pawb.social 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I believe some motos still have mSD and headphone jacks. My stylus 5g from two years ago still had one on release. They're pretty decent mid range phones, grabbed one on sale for $250.

[–] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 hours ago

They do. They are huge, have poor software updates, and generally can't be used with custom roms (hopefully this changes in the future), but bang for the buck the moto g line of phones is hard to beat. Weirdly, the 2024 and 2025 phones are the best to look at, the newer models are literal downgrades due to memory prices.

[–] Ooops@feddit.org 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I'm still using the S7e. The failing battery was so nice to pop open the glued back, so I could easily and cheaply replace it.

[–] dan@upvote.au 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I really hope some phones are released with support for MicroSD Express.

One of the practical reasons companies started removing MicroSD slots is because SD cards were far slower than the internal storage, and installing apps onto them could make everything laggier. That's mostly solved with MicroSD Express which is up to 9x faster than the legacy MicroSD standard.

Of course, there's also the financial aspect, which the manufacturers love. If you can't insert an SD card, you have to pay the manufacturer for more storage.

Here's hoping the EU mandates that phones need to support removable storage.

[–] definitemaybe@lemmy.ca 1 points 12 hours ago

A more balanced requirement would be replaceable storage or removable storage support.

If you can install your own (bigger) drive, then that's a fair alternative, imho. Like a 64GB–>1TB Steam Deck.

And USB is reaching 10-40 GBps transfer speeds, so swapping cards doesn't offer the same speed savings as it used to.

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

Moto G 2025

[–] bluGill@fedia.io 8 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Since 2015 I have only upgraded my phone because the previous one broke, and I didn't notice any difference. I had the first android, and it was slow enough that whatever I replaced it with (I don't remember what) was better because of the speed. Getting waterproof (resistant, but proof for practical purposes) was a big win. Only other time an upgraded helped was when the camera lens was so scratched that pictures improved. Every phone upgrade has been because the last one broke and so had to be replaced. My current phone is 4 years old and still works fine.

[–] dan@upvote.au 2 points 1 day ago

My wife upgraded from a Samsung S21 Ultra to an S25 Ultra but uses it mostly same way.

The one new feature I have seen her use is the AI person/object removal in the gallery. Samsung's AI tools can run entirely on-device, which is nice (avoids sending the photos to the cloud and using an AI data center for the processing). I tried them while in airplane mode to confirm they do indeed work with no internet connection.

She upgraded because the old one had a pretty scratched screen (we installed a screen protector on the new one!) and the battery wasn't lasting long any more. The official repair store that Samsung use in the US, UBreakIFix, don't stock S21 batteries any more, and I didn't trust myself enough to replace it myself.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 day ago

same, the only big improvement i've gotten is going from 60Hz to 120Hz display, and i really can't think of any more major improvements that would be possible.
Sure, it'd be sweet to have more battery capacity or better cameras, but the standard has been more than sufficient for any sort of normal usage for years and years now.

[–] Scrath@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago

The last time I upgraded my phone was only because my grandmother wanted a newer one and told me to upgrade so she could get my old one

[–] figjam@midwest.social 1 points 1 day ago

I want a device that can do text and mfa. I recently bought a fake iPod for music.

[–] RedGreenBlue@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I'm kinda interested in a jolla 2026. But they only promise software updates for 5 years and it's like 700€.

My current android is 5 years old and is no longer getting security updates. I would keep it forever if i could get updates for it.

Next I wan't a Linux phone. I'm sick of fighting google. I wan't something I own.

[–] spipau@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago

Maybe you can switch to https://e.foundation/ They often support devices longer with updates. Fairphone dropped my FP3 and Murena simply updated it to Android 15 adding 2 more years of security updates ✌️

[–] XLE@piefed.social 6 points 1 day ago

Globally, the size of the industry could reach $153.4 billion this year...

For reference this is the "Second-hand Electronic Products Market"; I've never heard it referred to as an industry but I guess it is. And good. It's deserved. Phone manufactures certainly don't deserve credit for mediocre devices.

as Nabila Popal, a senior director at the International Data Corporation, reminded me, prices reflect demand: If people keep buying up the used gadgets, those prices are bound to shoot up, too.

Hopefully it'll be less extreme than with desktops/RAM, though. Phones are at least single units that aren't so easy to be hoarded or cannibalized for the most expensive parts in them. Most people who want a good phone won't go out and buy 4-8 mediocre ones. Most people who want a good phone can settle for a popular flagship across several years manufacture, which might have been leased out previously.

[–] ftp@feddit.uk 1 points 1 day ago

Had my iPhone 12 for about 6 years, hoping to make it last at least 10 years. Case, screen protector and a battery replacement last year have kept it going strong for not much money.

The only struggle is the 64GB storage - large updates require me to offload lots of apps, and delete/re-download saved music. Otherwise I could get much better camera quality with a new phone, but it’s good enough for me.

[–] its_me_xiphos@beehaw.org 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Alrgiht. Since its ride until this thing dies...is there an alternative OS for me humble Samsung S21 Ultra? I understand Graphene doesn't work with it. I just need to call, 2FA support, Podcasts, Firefox, Maps, and use Signal. That's it. And I can do without maps.

[–] definitemaybe@lemmy.ca 2 points 12 hours ago

Just FYI, since nobody responded, the steps to check:

  1. Search if the phone model can have the bootloader unlocked. If no, then you're likely unable to do anything. Note that in some cases, this can vary by region. (Ex. the US version could have a locked bootloader, but the international model can be unlocked). The bootloader is basically the software that loads your phone operating system, and it needs to be unlocked to allow the OS to be changed.
  2. LineageOS is probably the easiest to check for a reputable replacement OS, for non-Pixel phones (for which you can get GrapheneOS.)
  3. XDA Forums used to be the #1 spot for phone "ROMs" (alternative OSes); it's changed a bit, afaik, but I think they're likely the next easiest spot to look for a custom OS, if GrapheneOS and LineageOS isn't an option.

A few Linux phones work, but there are only a handful of models supported. If you don't have a Fairphone 5 or a phone specifically marketed/sold as a Linux phone, you're most likely out of luck, unless you're willing to make major compromises, like non-working cell connectivity, camera, etc.

[–] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

When the next fairphone with dp alt mode comes out I'm going to be all over it, then I may never care again.

[–] LemmyPlaceDN@europe.pub 0 points 1 day ago

That's why I love my Fairphone 4. Everything about it still works like back when I bought it 5 years ago, except for the replaceable battery. And it will still get security updates for a few more years