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That ough to be one of the laziest genAI slop images for a "Chinese router with a backdoor".
Damn, it's bad.
Yeah that one is fairly hideous. Why can't they just use a product shot?
Here you go btw 
therapist: the mimo spider can't get you
the mimo spider:
That flag. Ugh.
There was a time when by facebook wall was plastered with AI slop articles, and all of them had flags chucked in like this.
A report of China obviously and illegally spying on large amounts of people (not only in the USA I might add), and that's the top comment?
I mean, it was assumed and mostly known that it was taking place already. Thats why the government tried to prevent them from being sold in the US. Did anyone really think they were going to give up on spying on world citizens when they were forced to sell TikTok?
No. But a hardware backdoor is a big step from whatever TikTok is doing. And I know it's not the first one either, but still, the disclosure of each and every one deserves attention.
Something the US has in common with China, they intercepted network gear and installed backdoors too while also demanding backdoors be installed in regular consumer devices. Plus the telecom/ISP secret surveillance rooms... Both countries governments are evil.
I guess the hack is to get one from the other country, because they can theoretically do less with the data.
Every time I mention this being a risk with Chinese tech I get flamed.
The CCP effectively controls every chinese company. If they want backdoors, they get backdoors.
I say that as a centre-left European who has just as much criticism for American tech.
And what is the difference between American companies?/ Microsoft has said they have to follow all requests from american government even of it goes against another countries laws. Like US asking for data in EU.
They seem to think criticism of the CCP means support for the US fascists.
It's possible to hate both.
Yeah. Or if you speak up about Gaza you're antisemetic. Or defend a Jewish person you're a fascist. Fucking hate the way things are.
Usually but not always different people calling fascist and antisemitic. It’s really polarised society, media and politics.
Pitching us against them has been the playbook of the epstein class since forever.
Bread and circus on repeat, our planet is a giant resort for the few and we are the serf~~vant~~s
Yeah, well said. I agree with you on this, I hate both
Not sure why you're telling me that like especially as I'm essentially saying they are the opposite sides of the same fucked up coin. I'd say the fundamental difference is on the western side it's the child raping Epstein class is who is behind it all and who are actively working to make our lives more miserable driven by immense obsession of power and wealth. The Chinese side is more if defacto state operation which isn't benefiting a few greedy sickos but rather maintaining the whole status quo for the state. Neither should exists, both countries are a threat to the rest of the world, though the Americans have tilted the evil scale more towards themselves at this point in time. And in Europe we're now worried the US will flip a switch to cut us off from all cloud services too, besides spying on us, sabotage us and threatening invasion. China is somewhat less extreme now, but still undermining us and spying on is nonetheless. A swinging pendulum of who is more evil that I wish would turn into a wrecking ball and free us of this insanity.
You think they don’t have sicko billionaires in China? It’s a different country, not a different species.
They do have billionaires, but they aren't calling the shots. Just ask Jack Ma
Everyone calling the shots in China is a Billionaire.
At least in the west the companies can fight back, like Apple has done a few times. In China the government can force companies to do their bidding.
Apples fight back was for show. The FBI wanted it public and in the open. They throw their "morals" away as soon as it hits their bottom line. Look at China and how they handle Trump.
You're not contradicting what I said. Apple gets to choose whether they want to cooperate or not, based on their own "morals" and profit motives. Chinese companies don't get that choice
Which router companies fight back? Or computer hardware in general? Anybody with a warrant canary?
Apple makes computers? You can turn an Apple computer into a router in 10 minutes using docker
Another case of: use an American router against the Chinese backdoor behind a Chinese router against the American backdoor.
(Or just do open source)
throw an Indian router, an Israeli router and a Turkish router into the chain for extra security
At least they should have good openwrt support!
If its at the hardware level openwrt won't help.
It isn't.
oh COME ON. The last thing I needed in this jingoistic American economy was any reason to legitimize their crap
Do you mean, legitimize the USA being anti-China?
I think it's important to remember that the USA aren't the only bad player on the globe.
We can be against China without being pro MAGA.
In this case, I was thinking of how this could be used to legitimize the decision a couple months ago to block the sale of all foreign-made routers.
(The decision is a terrible one, but I imagine MAGA people will use it to say "I told you so" while ignoring the fact that foreign brand Netgear got an exemption and at least temporary monopoly status.)
DD-WRT solves this
Not necessarily. It would be entirely possible of the manufacturer to implement the original fw in a fused memory and restore from that. Basically persistent uefi malware. One would probably notice it, but i wouldnt bet my life on that being true forever with the rate our tech is advancing
It only solves it if you can install it on those routers. Can you??
I can, they are supported by owrt.
But can i put pfsense or something on it?
