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[–] uberdroog@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

I would bet that has always been the case but those feelings were suppressed.

[–] Polyphilic@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Dont forget to remind everyone that the trump government decision to buy equity stakes in the private sector is literal socialism by definition. The government owns the means of production instead of private.

So when Republicans start moaning about socialism, feel free to educate them on their president who is implementing socialist policy

[–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Government owning the means of production is only socialism if the working class controls the government, which is demonstrably not true in the slightest. Instead we have capitalists controlling the government, and when the capitalist class exerts its power over the government to directly seize more ownership of the means of production, that is fascism (or at least often a hallmark of fascism).

[–] Polyphilic@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's why I used the term Socialist Policy.

[–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

But he’s not implementing socialist policy, he’s implementing fascist policy.

[–] Polyphilic@lemmy.ca -1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

The government buying private equity is a socialist policy

[–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

No it isn’t. Not unless the government is controlled by the working class, which it isn’t.

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 day ago

The neo-Renaissance awakening is almost upon us. America's last chance power drive for grift and glory is almost over.

[–] Uranus_Hz@lemmy.zip 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Only a third so far have realized that what is now being called “democratic socialism” is what they have always supported. Mainly: using the tax dollars (we already pay) for programs and services that benefit society. As opposed to the Republican plan of using that money to line the pockets of the Trump-Epstein class.

That percentage will only grow.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Exactly. When people find out what being a Democratic Socialist/ Progressive really means, most support it.

We have a choice between Democratic Socialism that helps the Citizens, or MAGA Socialism that helps only the Wealthy. Frame it that way, and the choice becomes easy, for most people.

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 35 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Anecdotally, I'm seeing a lot of normie liberals get radicalized by watching Democrats approve Trump's nominees, pass his legislation, and cave on their own government shutdowns. Turns out, if you pitch yourselves as the only opposition to fascism, people expect you to actually oppose fascism.

[–] SippyCup@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

"We DO opposite fascism. We sent a letter about it and everything!"

  • Jeffries, probably
[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 6 points 1 day ago

A-fucking-men!

[–] GardenGeek@europe.pub 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That's good news.

I do have one "BUT," though: Let's hope the Democrats don't follow in the footsteps of many (at least in name) left-wing political groups and split apart. Nothing could be better for the Republicans than to face two parties whose voter bases are each too small to defeat them in the election.

What needs to happen is for people to vote in primaries so democratic socialist candidates have a shot at winning the nomination (for whatever office they're running for).

[–] SippyCup@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Nothing is tastier to a leftist than other leftists. Eat the rich, sure, but have you TRIED eating another leftist with slightly different political views??

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[–] jode@pawb.social 74 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Surely the path to victory is to tack further right again. Surely, more Republicans will all of a sudden come to their senses...

/s

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Surely, more Republicans will all of a sudden come to their senses…

Most of the time a Republican wins, it's on a platform of Ending The Wars and Protecting the Entitlements and Creating The Jobs with government policy.

Sort of the joke in all this. Guys like Bush, Trump, and Reagan all campaigned far to the left of how they actually governed. They'd take office, their popularity would tank, they'd go into the next election cycle with underwater approval, and Democrats would campaign to the right of the Republicans on the grounds that Reagan / Bush / Trump were incredibly popular.

Periodically, a Democrat will win a primary to the left of the favorite for the office. But they'll immediately tack to the right again during the general for fear of looking to radical in the national media.

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[–] sunbytes@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

I think a lot of people didn't even think this was an option.

This is an excellent outcome.

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 42 points 2 days ago (7 children)

The "centrist"/right-leaning/neo-liberal democrats would rather rip the party in half than to use this swell of popular support for leftist ideals to win elections and make real change. The old Dems will flail and writhe and hurt themselves in confusion as the old guard dies and change happens whether they like it or not. They'll try to kick leftists out, jump ship themselves (going independent, forming a new third party, merging with libertarians, or maybe going all the way to going Republican), and bomb the entire party with infighting, fixing nominations with anti-democratic party tricks, and intentionally letting republicans win rather than supporting a socialist candidate. Can't wait for this cluster fuck.

[–] Nouvellalia@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

They've been doing half of what you listed, for decades.

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[–] BadmanDan@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Listen, I’m a pretty nuanced guy here in left wing politics. I believe in. Regulating capitalism, not destroying it, I don’t believe in throwing marginalized people under the bus to appeal to conservatives who never vote blue and I think we need to make sure wages go up before prices go down, iykyk.

All that said, even I’m telling you to give these DSA people a try. Will the succeed in their agenda? Probably not, you have to flip actual Republican seats to do so. But dammit they’re gonna try.

Also not a quote from this article

“Are more positive toward the Democratic Party. They are more likely to hold favorable views of the Democratic Party (68% to 60%) and its congressional leaders, and more likely to have negative views of the Republican Party and its congressional leaders”

The DSA are literally more favorable to the Democratic project than the so called “moderates”.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Because there is no moderate position on outright fascism. Reaching across the aisle to a Nazi makes you a fucking Nazi.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (12 children)

Will the succeed in their agenda? Probably not, you have to flip actual Republican seats to do so. But dammit they’re gonna try.

I find this attitude defeatist. A not insignificant number of people who perennially vote for Republicans are in favor of a lot of Democratic socialist ideas. The problem to surmount is the decades of propaganda making the word socialism somehow demonic and evil. There is also the unholy marriage of the Christian church and republicans. Glued mostly together by the continual fight over abortion.

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But dammit they’re gonna try.

This is where the bar is set. It's literally total fascists and people cosplaying opposition, versus people that are actually attempting to do better. It's on the fucking floor, but after watching democrats trip over it for 40+ years, I'm way past done with that bullshit. I'm voting for the "people who are gonna try."

[–] Akh@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago (3 children)
[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 33 points 2 days ago

If this is their attempt at stoking fear, they should do it more

[–] grte@lemmy.ca 33 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Well as per usual they are giant failures because they are only managing to stoke hope.

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[–] realitista@lemmus.org 24 points 2 days ago (23 children)

I wish there was an option for Social Democrat, because that's what fits me. Bernie made Democratic Socialism famous but I don't think most people who define themselves this way understand the difference.

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[–] areakode@riskeratspizza.com 19 points 2 days ago (4 children)

MAGA successfully took over a major political party. It's our turn now!

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[–] BigMacHole@thelemmy.club 15 points 2 days ago (9 children)

A THIRD of our Base Identifies as THAT! OBVIOUSLY the Path to VICTORY is to WIN over ~~them!~~ the ZERO Percent of our Base who are MAGA!

-The DNC!

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[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

The DNC wont acknowledge the dem socialists. They would rather lose. So they will lose and the voters will choose between the Republicans and the DSA, which will probably then replace the democratic party. It all hinges on whether the DSA continues to try to reform the Dems from within, which has been tried many times previously and always fails. If the DSA go their own way theres a path to the people being represented and Democratic policies sprouting anew. Otherwise fascism wins and US democracy ends. The DNC will allow democracy to end too, just very slightly slower.

It all becomes pretty clear and consistent if you look at the arc of the democratic party's history. They have always been a sheepdog party and the voters keep pouring our hopes and dreams into them and let that define who we think they are.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJpnZeb3AO0

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[–] tigermountain@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (4 children)

So you're telling me that a third of democrats now support open borders and public control of large corporations?

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