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A woman recently took to social media after discovering that her Audi rental car's dashboard contained a camera recording her every move. It also gave verbal reminders...

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[–] LaggyKar@programming.dev 1 points 6 days ago

This is something that's now legally required for new cars in the EU.

[–] Marija_@programming.dev 1 points 6 days ago

That should have been obvious and opt-in from day one.

[–] absquatulate@lemmy.world 59 points 1 week ago (2 children)

They're naming the car manufacturer and the camera manufacturer and all its features but why did they not name the fucking car rental company??

I have a feeling this article is aimed at people looking for privacy invading cameras.

[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

why did they not name the fucking car rental company?

Because it's not a car rental company, it was a free loaner from a dealership / workshop. The article plays fast and loose with facts (like the hidden camera) when the thing is the size of your head and right where the rearview mirror is.

[–] scytale@piefed.zip 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I doubt that’s the actual camera in question too. That’s likely just a stock photo.

[–] XLE@piefed.social 11 points 1 week ago

When I posted about this same thing yesterday, it took a while to find a half decent article about it. DuckDuckGo seemed to bury them. IMO the Daily Dot did a much better job representing it in retrospect (and it's a name I recognize at least) but the lion's share of apparent journalism here seems to have been done by the anonymous Twitter account that compiled the clip and... Ugh... AI generated opinion about the camera. Some sources used the video with more skepticism than others.

I guess techspot is not one of them.

I also see a heck of a lot of Techspot articles posted here, a name I've never heard of anywhere else in the wild.

There's a link to a video by the person showing the actual camera. It's bigger than the stock picture in the article.

[–] otacon239@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Easy fix:

  • Find its fuse
  • Disconnect
[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Given it's not her property, that sounds like a quick way to a lot of legal liability.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Pulling a fuse isn't destroying

Covering a camera isn't either

I will not let a company watch my every move, period

Legal liability can result from more than just destruction of property. It's not her property, there's likely limits on what she's allowed to do with it, period.

I will not let a company watch my every move, period

Then don't use somebody else's car? There's nothing in the law that says you can use another's property however you like.

[–] modus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So pull the fuse, burn it out, re-insert it.

[–] waterSticksToMyBalls@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The road? No. There's this giant block covering the entire windshield.

The car is equipped with a cameras so massive pointing directly at you, she’s calling it the “Eye of Sauron”

Wtf is the bullshit title? There's nothing remotely hidden about it.

[–] sundray@lemmus.org 10 points 1 week ago

"Unsafe driving detected. Please put down the beer and place both hands on the wheel."

[–] Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago

I'm conflicted about this. 1) it's an invasion of privacy, but 2) drivers have gotten so awful and self absorbed that some of them need monitoring.

[–] fraksken@infosec.pub 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Maybe all in all not a bad idea for audis and bmws. "Don't forget to use your direction indicator" or "slower acceleration gets you to the next red light just as fast and consunes less fuel". Might so a world of good for some brands

[–] motionofethre@piefed.social 10 points 1 week ago

AI is overkill though. Just remind them every 5 min

[–] egrets@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

slower acceleration [...] and consunes less fuel

I'm not advocating any specific behavior, but this generally is not true for combustion engines. Faster acceleration at lower revs (and then holding a steady speed for longer) is more fuel-efficient than a long, slow acceleration period. This is different for different vehicles, but it holds true as a rule of thumb.

[–] CannonFodder@lemmy.world -3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

But that's not the situation needing to be compared. It's accelerating to a high speed, going at that high speed for a short time and then stopping and waiting, vs. accelerating to a low speed, going at that low speed for a bit longer and the stopping and waiting for less time.

[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

stopping and waiting for less time.

There's an unstated assumption in there that's not true. Your average waiting time at the stoplight is mostly independent of your driving speed up to the light. For every time you reach a red light early, there's also a time you missed a red light.

[–] CannonFodder@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

But does that factor in significantly to gas efficiency? Idling for longer won't make much difference. The greater acceleration is what will reduce efficiency big time. Yes, you might make more lights and get to your destination faster with the drive-as-fast-as-you-can approach, but you burn more gas, pollute more and wear your tires.

[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well you posited 2 scenarios, and this assumption was one of the major differences between the two.

The greater acceleration is what will reduce efficiency big time.

I'm not an expert, but the other comment provided a source claiming otherwise.

[–] CannonFodder@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The source was a stack exchange comment. And it starts out based on a bad premise - that it's all about getting the most energy out of the fuel. He's talking efficiency of engine. But it takes a lot more energy to accelerate quickly then stop than to accelerate a bit, cruise for longer and then stop. In terms of high school physics: kinetic energy is 1/2 m v^2 - so you need to put in 4x the energy to go to double the speed. Your ICE might do 10% better at the higher acceleration in terms of fuel per energy, but it doesn't help if you need way more energy. On top of that, the stack exchange comment excludes the effects of air resistance, and that's huge here. Air resistens goes up at approximately the power of 4. So to go 2x the speed, the force of air friction that your car needs to counter to go at a steady pace once accelerated, is 16x the energy per time. It's for nominally half the time so you are using 8x the energy at that double speed even once you've accelerated. And of course since you're going faster, you have to decelerate at the next lights more so your breaks see the same 4x kinetic energy they need to disperse through wear.

Fair enough, I make no claims about the efficiency of acceleration. I just saw an issue with your scenarios that I pointed out.

[–] deliriousdreams@fedia.io 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I only have two questions. To get a loaner car she had to sign an agreement. Did she read before she signed? Was there a clause in the agreement about the cameras or about being filmed?

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Probably buried in the 500 pages of indecipherable legalize written in all capital letters with no paragraph breaks.

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 week ago

Also maybe we shouldn't be subject to the stuff at all no matter what the contract says? Maybe this shouldn't be allowed

[–] deliriousdreams@fedia.io 2 points 1 week ago

Mostly I just want to know if an attempt was made to inform her, and if she actually read it versus ignoring that attempt.

If no attempt was made, the company is at fault. If an attempt was made and it wasn't a sincere attempt (like your example), the company is still wrong. If it was written down in the agreement in clear English and she didn't read it, that's kind of on her. I'm not saying it's only her fault, just that perhaps she shouldn't have signed the agreement. We all know these companies are trying to use our distraction, poor attention spans, and busy lives to take advantage of us.

[–] webp@mander.xyz 3 points 1 week ago

Would it work to put a bag over them?