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[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 3 hours ago

Who is surprised by this?

He was making slop versions of his own movies before AI.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 6 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

I hate AI as much as the next person but the Pandora's box is open. A lot of people don't want to admit it but AI, despite its current limitations, does have potential. Many people say that AI hit its limit and peak but i would not be very dismissive of it yet. Plenty of technologies were hindered by the limitations of their time but gradually overcame those. It took renewable energy at least fifty years to overcome the storage problem, their respective technical limits (solar panels for example did not have great photovoltaic system) and upfront cost before it became more commercially viable.

[–] luciferofastora@feddit.org 4 points 2 hours ago

I think the primary gripe with AI is less about having no potential, but about the specific potential for evil being leveraged heavily while "visionaries" lie about or dismiss the (current and foreseeable future) limits for clout and profit.

To use your comparison, CEOs selling solar panels are responding to scepticism about the stability of that supply and its elasticity to fluctuating power demand with vague promises of developing more advanced cells that can operate with less light and throttle the generated power during ebbs in demand. They buy land to install more solar panels, then lobby for the deactivation of other, flexible power sources that could supplement their supply until they can finally start charging more in times of high demand.

They do so because the alternative would be admitting that the product they're selling isn't ready for the market they're trying to enter (or at least not at the scale they're aiming for) and that the solution to their issues requires different technologies which have not yet been developed. They can't admit that because it would upset the investors that trusted their vision. As a famous adage suggests, they probably can't even understand that limit, since their salary depends on not understanding it.

In the same vein, the current CEOs fail (or refuse?) to acknowledge that the generative models today have a fundamental limitation with understanding the semantics behind certain patterns. One infamous phenomenon would be AI hands: We know what a hand is and how it works; a generator can only vaguely imitate the patterns. It doesn't know "hand" or "finger", so it just generates some assembly that vaguely fits its training material.

If we consider the broader and ill-defined field of AI, I can believe that some form of semantic modelling technology could provide a way to connect tokens with abstract concepts and enable a type of reasoning that pure token predictors are incapable of. But we first need to acknowledge that limit, and on that front, we're competing against tech-bros that would rather believe than know and against grifters that would rather sell snake oil than teach medicine.

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 14 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

As much as I also just think AI is just going to make lazy people lazier, and we’ve already seen some effects regarding our ability to problem solve, the real issue is that none of the wonderful utopian AI stuff is going to come true at the rate we’re going. I don’t guve a fat flying fuck how good or bad AI is, I care that it’s being used to spy on us, make decisions no human will ever review, and has already led to mass layoffs without any kind of safety net for those people. I care that it’s raping the environment so some sentient dick-cheese can get worse results than a near-zero effort search would give them. Increased productivity has yet to give anyone more free time, they just axe someone else and overwork whoever’s left.

We are NOT ready for AI at ANY level. It’s a weapon being used against the working class. If you think the issue is with its quality then you need to sit the fuck down, shut the fuck up, and pay some goddamn attention.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

We are NOT ready for AI at ANY level. It’s a weapon being used against the working class.

Indeed.

If you think the issue is with its quality then you need to sit the fuck down, shut the fuck up, and pay some goddamn attention.

Given the sizeable demographic of Lemmy being in IT, I understand the hate because it takes away creativity and literal jobs of programmrs but for many sectors, AI cuts down time consuming "secretary work" especially in documentation. It has also been useful in drug discovery and proven to be more accurate at diagnosis than doctors (there are already surgical robots but i am not sure how precise they are).

Whether you like to admit it or not, AI is here to stay. As to whether it will have a net positive to society, only time will tell. I'm just preparing for contingencies like many Gen Z do, picking trades to AI-proof their job security.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

George, blink twice if they found compromat on you!

[–] eicker@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Funny how every generation says the next tool will ruin art until it becomes invisible. AI will not magically write great films any more than CGI did. The real question is who owns the tools, the data, and the final cut. That is where this gets interesting.

[–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world -1 points 6 hours ago

Speaking of films, what most anti-AI people can’t see is how AI can lead to a new golden age of film/tv. It can allow people to cheaply and quickly create teasers/trailers/shorts/even full episodes and movies for cents on the dollar compared to before. The barrier of entry was incredibly high, but thanks to AI that is now a possibility for any anyone.

When you look at the utter crap that Hollywood is spewing out these days like Moana “live action” and Supergirl, it’s hard to say that AI couldn’t be used to make better content.

[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 18 points 17 hours ago (4 children)

Its weird that he really was on the forefront once because he did physical effects with interesting camera shots. it felt new and different.

AI is not going to give you that, it will suck. CGI sucks already too.

Oh well not like he is relevant. A new hope was at least interesting, but its been nothing after that anyways.

[–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world -2 points 6 hours ago

If he’s embracing AI then he is once again on the forefront. AI has the ability to revolutionise the industry in a way that it needs in order to survive - greatly reduce costs and greatly reduce production times.

Movie studios are quickly moving to the same situation that video game developers are in now thanks to ballooning costs and long development times - a situation where if every single game they release isn’t an absolute smash hit seeking 20 million copies at full price, they’re going to go under.

The movie industry is in free fall. AI adoption is one of the only realistic paths forward.

[–] cheat700000007@lemmy.world 8 points 16 hours ago

Only because he had to. As soon as it was possible he went cg and blue screens.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

He used what was available at the time. For the original trilogy, that was practical effects.

The prequel trilogy was a bit more... Dodgy thanks to eagerly embraced CGI that wasn't fully baked yet.

People famously critiqued the reworked original trilogy due to various dubious creative tweaks. Like waking on Jabba and Jabba just having a funny reaction instead of how you would expect him to react.

Nothing he added was pointful. All of the CGI retouches of the original trilogy were pointless CGI effects for the sake of having pointless CGI effects. At one point in the Mos Eisley sequence a huge pack animal walks through the frame, obscuring almost all of it. Why? Because it was some computer generated shit to throw in!

[–] kaotic@lemmy.world 9 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (2 children)

Not going to get into the AI debate; I will agree that BAD CGI sucks; there’s so much CGI you never even notice and without it the scenes would be horrible. The main reason “CGI sucks” is because of the shift to go with the lowest bidder who’s then forced to work under horrific timelines and unable to actually do good work. CGI itself doesn’t suck, but it absolutely can when done by a low bidder in 1/4 of the time it needs.

https://youtu.be/bL6hp8BKB24

[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 4 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Funny he uses Michael bay as an example in that video. Nothing will put me to sleep faster than a Michael bay movies effects.

I get your point though, it's a tool when used artistically and with skill can be fine.

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[–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 17 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Old Man Succumbs to Chatbot Flattery, volume 25841.

But also, Lucas was always exchanted by cgi, even when it looked way worse than practical effects.

[–] rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 7 points 17 hours ago

Crap-looking Special Edition Jabba has awkwardly entered the chat.

[–] Widdershins@lemmy.world 21 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I have always thought ai was like the Jar Jar Binks of computer programs.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago

Meesah notsah Jamaican racist stereotypesah.

[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 9 points 17 hours ago

Of course he did. He loves updating his classics every time some "new technology" comes along to let his freak-flag fly.

We'll be seeing a re-re-re-re-release of A New Hope shortly where he uses an AI generated Boba Fett and Solo giving them a scene or two to develop a backstory.

[–] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 18 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

He became irrelevant the moment he sold the Star Wars franchise to Disney, and it's all been downhill from there (both for him and the franchise). Fuck him.

[–] remon@ani.social 1 points 1 hour ago

The franchise already went downhill with him still in charge, Disney just finished the Job.

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[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 17 points 22 hours ago

i mean, he was there all along. he pioneered the all green screen wave of automation in movies. the abuse of green screen was the slop before ai was around. to him it’s just cutting out all the vestiges of imperfection still greasing the machine

[–] WesternInfidels@feddit.online 10 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Instead of interviewing a rich, famous, busy person, wouldn't it be easier to ask an AI to pretend to be that person, and interview the AI?

Or even to ask the AI to just write both parts of the interview itself? Wouldn't that just be helping interviewers get the stories they want to share out into the world?

[–] rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago

Maybe an AI can read the story too, and they can all leave me the fuck out of it.

[–] nullspace@lemmy.world 4 points 17 hours ago

Lucas has always been on the forefront of utilizing tech in movie production so it's really no surprise he would adopt this mindset.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 4 points 17 hours ago

How to tell who invested heavily in AI with one easy trick.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

"Goes to the Dark Side"

Someone never saw the rerelease of the original series.

Lucas' best work was under an editor, whenever he got the full reigns, the product suffered.

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[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 7 points 21 hours ago

This is not the intelligence you are looking for...

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