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[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 19 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Its weird that he really was on the forefront once because he did physical effects with interesting camera shots. it felt new and different.

AI is not going to give you that, it will suck. CGI sucks already too.

Oh well not like he is relevant. A new hope was at least interesting, but its been nothing after that anyways.

[–] cheat700000007@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Only because he had to. As soon as it was possible he went cg and blue screens.

[–] kaotic@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Not going to get into the AI debate; I will agree that BAD CGI sucks; there’s so much CGI you never even notice and without it the scenes would be horrible. The main reason “CGI sucks” is because of the shift to go with the lowest bidder who’s then forced to work under horrific timelines and unable to actually do good work. CGI itself doesn’t suck, but it absolutely can when done by a low bidder in 1/4 of the time it needs.

https://youtu.be/bL6hp8BKB24

[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Funny he uses Michael bay as an example in that video. Nothing will put me to sleep faster than a Michael bay movies effects.

I get your point though, it's a tool when used artistically and with skill can be fine.

[–] yessikg@fedia.io -2 points 1 day ago

The only good CGI is one that holds up well after decades, and that's basically only the CGI in the POTC 2 and 3 movies

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He used what was available at the time. For the original trilogy, that was practical effects.

The prequel trilogy was a bit more... Dodgy thanks to eagerly embraced CGI that wasn't fully baked yet.

People famously critiqued the reworked original trilogy due to various dubious creative tweaks. Like waking on Jabba and Jabba just having a funny reaction instead of how you would expect him to react.

Nothing he added was pointful. All of the CGI retouches of the original trilogy were pointless CGI effects for the sake of having pointless CGI effects. At one point in the Mos Eisley sequence a huge pack animal walks through the frame, obscuring almost all of it. Why? Because it was some computer generated shit to throw in!

[–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world -5 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

If he’s embracing AI then he is once again on the forefront. AI has the ability to revolutionise the industry in a way that it needs in order to survive - greatly reduce costs and greatly reduce production times.

Movie studios are quickly moving to the same situation that video game developers are in now thanks to ballooning costs and long development times - a situation where if every single game they release isn’t an absolute smash hit selling 20 million copies at full price, they’re going to go under.

The movie industry is in free fall. AI adoption is one of the only realistic paths forward.

[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 0 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Needs to survive? Are you kidding me? Good stories, good direction. You don't need 47 million dollars to make a movie.

Can you show me that "the movie industry is in free fall"? I have seen many fantastic movies lately.

I guess you could consider AI to be a form of animation, but I really don't see them improving anything if they keep churning out the same crap for the big budget movies.

[–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Look at the consolidation of the market due to failing studios. WB aren’t selling because they’re doing well. Disney is releasing extremely expensive flop after extremely expensive flop. Yes, the entire movie industry as we know it is in a fight for survival, has been for years.

AI enables significantly quicker and cheaper iteration and experimentation. You stint have to hire a gigantic CGI studio to get cgi on screen anymore, which enables a much more streamlined movie making process. It also enables much more creativity because there is far less risk. A studio would be much more likely to sign off on a director making a short to pitch for a full movie if it only costs $2k but has cgi/locations/etc matching a $200mil blockbuster.

[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 hours ago

Failing studios due to their mad rush to build out streaming services, taking on massive debt, and trying to shuffle that debt around. Doesnt help that they don't pick up movies that are worthwhile and instead try to follow formulas. They want intellectual Property for a long term franchise, park ride, and merch. Consolidation desires IP.

For example on major movies: I saw someone on Nebula say everything that went into making The Barbie Movie was what made it work. But instead of focusing on what THAT was and making a different movie, they immediately start thinking: milk the Barbie movie for a sequel and more merch and a Barbieland.

Point is: they made shitty decisions. I am not sure AI will help because they will still do the above and just pay less people.

At least thats how I see it.

I could see AI being used as a story board, sample scenes, something like that. Beyond that, nah I don't even want to see it.