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[โ€“] maam@feddit.uk 56 points 23 hours ago

If you donโ€™t want to lose your privacy or right to access information, you should oppose these proposed laws.

[โ€“] Scrollone@feddit.it 30 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Remember: it's not age verification. It's mass surveillance.

We really didn't learn anything from Snowden.

[โ€“] ipp0@sopuli.xyz 2 points 5 hours ago

The prototype age verification app is designed to preserve privacy https://digital-strategy.ec.europa.eu/en/faqs/eu-age-verification-solution

[โ€“] Babalugats@feddit.uk 8 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

The EPP are the main party that are pushing these mass surveillance laws in the EU.

Find out which parties in your country allign with them and you should know who not to vote for in the next election. They are by far the biggest party in the EU, and have almost every country's biggest party with them. They seem to be barking down the orders, and the national parties obey the orders. Von der Leyen and Metsola are both in parties under the EPP (I suggest a search using any search engine, with either of their names followed by allegations and controversies).

All of us are aware of corruption, power-mongering and all sorts of other undemocratic, underhanded tactics that politicians use, but the EPP are already acting on another level, and seem to be guided by US Big-Tech, if this is what to expect from them under the EU umbrella then we really should be fighting harder for our fundamental rights and freedoms that the EU alleges to value so much.

[โ€“] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 10 hours ago

Europe is truly speedruning the mass surveillance thing.

In the last year they have been pushing , chat control, social media age verification and porn age verification.

A wonderful time to be european who doesn't want to be spy on every single thing you do.

[โ€“] lemmelemmy@feddit.org 8 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

this is a great opportunity quit social media

from what I've heard Estonia and Belgium oppose social media bans for under 16s

[โ€“] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 51 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

Reminder that this is all a desire of big techers to increase surveillance

[โ€“] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Surveillance? They just want to sell you shit. But they need to know exactly who you are to very do that.

Just send a list of your fears to Facebook.

[โ€“] Zedstrian@sopuli.xyz 1 points 7 hours ago

Such platforms gathering data for marketing purposes can be easily co-opted for surveillance by governments.

I feel like this doesn't get said enough

[โ€“] BrickEater@lemmy.world 17 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Suppose I won't be on the net much longer, nice knowing y'all friends

[โ€“] maam@feddit.uk 3 points 8 hours ago

Yeah I think itโ€™s a good time to hang out at the pub instead

[โ€“] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 3 points 13 hours ago

What plans do you have for your netirement?

[โ€“] TheDribbler@fedinsfw.app 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Who drew this fucking map?

[โ€“] Transparent_knoll@awful.systems 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

The purple colouring suggests its a proton map to me, but I've not verified that.

Edit: the source link is proton. So probably their AI; Lumo.

[โ€“] maam@feddit.uk 1 points 8 hours ago

If you donโ€™t like it you can use the Wikipedia link.

[โ€“] myrmidex@belgae.social 5 points 21 hours ago

A union at last. /s

[โ€“] victorz@lemmy.world -1 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (2 children)

I'm on the fence of whether I am for or against this. It's strictly against privacy. Bad.

But if this passes, it might give me a good reason to just opt out of social media altogether. Might be good for me. ๐Ÿ’โ€โ™‚๏ธ

Edit: this was meant as tongue-in-cheek. Sorry if it was unclear.

[โ€“] realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip 27 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

You are aware you can opt out of social media without losing your rights, yes?

[โ€“] maam@feddit.uk 10 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Itโ€™s like saying โ€œItโ€™s good that android is degrading now I can finally quit using smartphones meanwhile the government and corporations makes having one more mandatory.โ€

[โ€“] dawcas@scribe.disroot.org 7 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I have no smartphone and I am afraid of having one being mandatory.

[โ€“] maam@feddit.uk 10 points 21 hours ago

This is why forced digital ids must be opposed every step of the way.

[โ€“] victorz@lemmy.world 0 points 13 hours ago

Yeah, it was meant as tongue-in-cheek.

[โ€“] Powerpoint@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago

The problem is if they try and implement this at an operating system level like some US states are doing

[โ€“] victorz@lemmy.world 0 points 13 hours ago

Duh.

This would just make it easier.

But I still don't want this. This was mostly tongue-in-cheek. I guess it was unclear, judging by the votes lol.

[โ€“] cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

It isnโ€™t just against privacy. The rich and powerful are trying to control the narrative, in essence what people know about the world. They want to make it to where only their truth is available to you. Itโ€™s very inconvenient to them that a bunch of them got caught diddling kids and they donโ€™t want to get caught again. Theyโ€™re absolutely not going to stop doing it, but they want to limit who can tell you when they do it and just pay those people off.

[โ€“] victorz@lemmy.world 0 points 13 hours ago

My comment was tongue-in-cheek.

But I'm not sure I follow you here: this wave of proposals does mean trouble on many levels, but how does limiting the younger part of the world from accessing social media limit what truth is available to me regarding what the rich and powerful are up to?