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[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 113 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

Waiting for buses and other public transport especially. In college I had no car and continued working a part time job that I previously borrowed my parents' car to commute to. My options were: spending an hour and a half to commute taking a bus with a reasonable schedule but I'd have to walk over a mile alongside a busy road to my job, or spend three hours to commute due to how two route schedules matched up to drop me off at the entrance to the shopping center.

Each of those options was one way, and this was before smart phones. I wasn't getting anything done in that time besides listening to music and maybe reading a book while on the bus itself.

And then I learned that on Saturdays, over half the time the bus just didn't fucking show up at the stop where I got on, and the support phone line would just fucking lie about it.

Plus, if I had a vehicle, the commute would have been only 20 minutes in bad traffic.

Will say, the regular distance power walking helped keep me in great shape though.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 75 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

I wonder how infrastructure would change if companies were required to reimburse valid claims of mileage or time spent (not the bus/train fare, but paying your wage for the time spent to get to work).

[–] jtrek@startrek.website 40 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This could be a fantastic idea, and maybe a hammer blow to the "return to office" bullshit.

Sure, I'll go into the office. Pay me 25% more to account for the travel time.

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[–] vrek@programming.dev 25 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

I had a job 2.5 miles from my apartment. There is a bus stop on the corner of my apartment, there is a bus stop next to the job. According to the website it was 3 hours to commute by bus to get there...

[–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I wouldn't be surprised if that bus included connections to other lines on top of it all.

I had to commute by bus for a while. The transfer is where my anxiety peaked. Being miles away from home and hoping not to miss a second bus just to make it to work on time meant my brain was on high alert the whole time.

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[–] starelfsc2@sh.itjust.works 98 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Same with being disabled, growing up I thought disabled people just got helped by everyone in society with everything. Turns out most of the time it's "do what you were doing before except harder."

[–] Syndication@lemmy.today 30 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Or if you're too mentally ill and in so much pain that working is hard but society deems you worthless

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[–] Dookieman12@piefed.social 79 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

This is what I point out whenever someone tries to tell me, "The only fair thing in life is everyone gets 24 hours in a day."

That doesn't mean shit when someone with a private jet can be on a different continent in hours.

[–] EggInDisguise@lemmy.blahaj.zone 43 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

"We all have the same 24 hours in a day"

I fucking hate that saying so much. I've started telling people just because you and everyone else at the marathon might have the same 23 miles to go, when 9/10 of you are shackled to a heavy steel ball, and at least half are dragging 2 or 3, then that distance means fuck all.

[–] red_tomato@lemmy.world 26 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

A marathon isn’t that hard. Just buy a car!

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I like to use a private jet. I can be so much more productive!

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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 74 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

You know what’s also wild?

Paying Elon Musk for a blue checkmark.

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[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 71 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Being poor is super expensive. When you don't have enough money in your bank account they'll charge you a monthly fee. When you're too poor to have an account, you have to go to a check cashing place and pay to get paid. Too poor to have awesome credit? You have to pay higher interest fees and larger deposits.

[–] coolie4@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

I've never understood check cashing places.

I thought people only went to them because they didn't want to wait for checks to clear, or they didn't want a paper trail on a checking account, because it would get automatically garnished for child support.

Are you saying that someone could actually be so poor that a bank will refuse them from opening a checking account? What risk is there to the bank if it goes empty?

[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 9 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

One thing is financial literacy.

A lot of people come from a cycle of poverty where no one around them can explain why it's a good idea to have a bank account.

Also, there are predatory banks that demand minimum amounts to start any account. If you don't have $200.00 to start an account it's hard to start an account.

Back in the day, banks encouraged little kids to start bank accounts with just a few dollars. I had a bank book when I was 12. Those days are long gone. I went to Bank of America with a check from a BOA account and they wanted to charge me. I could wait to get to my own bank, but other folks wouldn't have that option.

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[–] HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Credit Unions for example require a share purchase usually so while it's usually quite small some people can't afford to loose even $5.

Sometimes it's also debt, guy owes his normal bank a fuckload of money so uses the cash checking to cash his check, he might lose a bit in fees but it's probably less than what the bank would of taken. I've seen alot of contractors in this situation.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 weeks ago

can’t afford to loose even $5.

Is that what they mean when they say money's tight?

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[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 41 points 2 weeks ago

I’ve known people to be on hold for 6-8 hours for multiple days with the local food stamp office without being able to get in touch with anyone. At one point the automatic message when you called was ‘too many people are calling, hang up.’

[–] vrek@programming.dev 40 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The other thing is how expensive being poor is. Laundry is like 3 dollars a load last I checked. Buy cheap shoes, expect them to last 6 months max. There are food options if you have time to cook but combined with the original poster you won't and you don't have transportation so delivery is only option...

[–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (5 children)

$3 a load? Whoa.

It takes about $17 for a single load at the laundromats near me, both washing and drying. Going once a week, that's over $800 a year.

Which is one reason I've started washing clothes in a 5-gallon (about 19 liters) bucket at home. It sucks, but it saves me money and I get a work out from it. I'd like to get a small machine I could use in an apartment, but where I live it wouldn't be safe to have packages sitting outside all day and I try to avoid big box stores, so I feel pretty screwed.

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[–] sportsjorts@lemmy.zip 38 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Poverty is more expensive than anything any millionaire or billionaire could buy. Fuck the rich.

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[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 38 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

The time theft has a far reach. I’ve worked with kids who’ve gone inpatient for mental health, acting out in school, etc. Why? Because mom isn’t there. It’s not willful neglect. It’s neglect through not neglecting her motherly duties by working 2-3 jobs to keep the lights on and shoes on her child’s feet.

Time is a key reason we need to be paid more, have a much higher minimum wage, though it isn’t often mentioned.

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 8 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

Minimum wage isn't going to cut it anymore. We need UBI.

Democracy is the idea that political authority is derived from the people. The government's power to levy taxes and conduct its business is taken from We The People; We The People should be fairly compensated for the use of that power. We should each be paid a citizenship dividend of 75% of the current poverty level, before we put a single hour on the clock.

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[–] ytg@sopuli.xyz 36 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Not exactly the tweet, but dropping this again here because of the title.

The reason that the rich were so rich, Vimes reasoned, was because they managed to spend less money. Take boots, for example. ... A really good pair of leather boots cost fifty dollars. But an affordable pair of boots, which were sort of OK for a season or two and then leaked like hell when the cardboard gave out, cost about ten dollars. ... But the thing was that good boots lasted for years and years. A man who could afford fifty dollars had a pair of boots that'd still be keeping his feet dry in ten years' time, while a poor man who could only afford cheap boots would have spent a hundred dollars on boots in the same time and would still have wet feet.

This was the Captain Samuel Vimes 'Boots' theory of socio-economic unfairness.

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[–] cymbal_king@lemmy.world 23 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The SiFi movie "In Time" staring Justin Timberlake is meh quality wise, but the premise is really interesting... That the currency of that universe is the time someone has left to live. They do an interesting job playing with how wealth inequality changes behavior of people with and without time to spare

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[–] jenings@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Time poverty is a totally real and utterly overlooked hindrance

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[–] yggstyle@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (13 children)

Fun napkin math fact: If we divvied up the top... 5 wealthiest billionaires net worth... that'd get every living man, woman, and child on earth a cool $250 ish.

Sure - its not very much but it certainly does make you think. What if...

[–] vivalapivo@lemmy.today 23 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The idea of wealth redistribution is in stripping power from the very rich. If you are rich, you influence politics in a way that benefits you by not caring about others.

The problem with Bill Gates' poly vaccine in Africa is not in the fact that it didn't save children, in fact it did. The problem is that measles takes more children's lives in Africa by an order of magnitude and measles vaccination would've saved much more.

Now add to the picture the recent decisions: internet surveillance (age verification), ignoring the Paris agreement, data centers built everywhere. I guess a lot of people would oppose these, but their voices are not heard.

[–] yggstyle@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I mentioned this a moment ago as a different reply but your observations are all examples of a feedback loop perpetuating itself. Its certainly correctable. This isnt the first time it happened nor will it be the last. Its a product of some of the uglier parts of the human condition.

Absolute power corrupts - and those in power will not only seek to keep that power bit increase it. They consolidate it. Less people with power: less opposition. But this has diminishing returns... and has reset trap baked in. How? Numbers. Power moves people. As you concentrate power - you have less people to move and more people opposing that movement.

1 billionaire, 8 billion people. What do you do to maintain that power? Surveillance. Draconian rules. Control the narrative and paint yourself as necessary. The power dynamic is reaching a tipping point. Unrelated: I recall there seems to be an uptick in bunkers being built by the ultra wealthy. Puzzling.

Sound familiar? It should. History is littered with example after example.

The system breaks in the same way - every time. These aren't deitites - they aren't special. They are just another meat bag running on 80% lizard-brain firmware that is purely focused on ITS survival alone. In the end these twats engineer their own destruction. Now, while the all for one trait certainly is consistent in its consolidation of power: it still consistently maintains its loss record to the group. I'd like to think of that as an immune response to a foreign entity. In a weird way that sorta gives me hope.

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[–] 4grams@awful.systems 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It really is time we figure out how to level the playing field.

[–] humanamerican@lemmy.zip 16 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)
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[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Another thing about being poor is that once you get a bit of money its like pouring water onto a desert because of all the deferred things. Clothes, car repairs and tires, debt, dentist, medical care, shoes. The hole people get in is deeper than it looks. A few thousand can evaporate disappointingly quickly.

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[–] glibg@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Waiting for busses isn't a poverty problem, it's a policy problem.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 2 weeks ago

It's both.

In fact, poverty itself is a policy choice of forced deprivation.

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[–] OctopusNemeses@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That's a marker of the upwardly mobile. At some point they reach a threshold of wealth where they can be paying other people for their time.

Those who stay poor might look at them like they're spending money recklessly to pay for the help. They don't realize the financial crossover that's happening.

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[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 9 points 2 weeks ago

I feel this. I need to send out resumes but more than half my time is doing other things and this list is I would say a pretty decent list of what sucks up the time. Whats funny is our society has all this potential labor but we rather it go to waste and atriphy.

[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

Much of it is a deliberate business strategy. The lower priced options waste more time to deter those able to afford more expensive alternatives from using them.

[–] HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I'm going to just say whole I fully agree with the sentiment, Transit needs to not be looked at as a part of poverty. Alot of cities have transit used by all walks of life.

[–] humanamerican@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I'm gonna guess the poster is in the US. In most of this country, bus=poor because in most of this country the bus service is so shitty that only people who can't afford a car will use it.

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