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[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 26 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You must give us your pocket change for using your monopoly power to make trillions by abusing the market.

[–] Prathas@lemmy.zip 12 points 3 days ago

Right? Forcing them to keep Android open would be far more effective than this fine.

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Not long ago Walmart got fined by the CCP for poor food practices. Instead of saying "we disagree with the judgement" they licked the boot and said they look forward working with the government to resolve the situation. Point is, corporations should be afraid of the government, clearly Google is not afraid of the EU and as a result I expect similar behavior from them in the future.

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[–] Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 107 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

significant investment to ensure Android remains open.

Unless you want to install apps not from the google app store. Or develop apps not for the google app store. Or use a Captcha without having google services. Or use your bank website without google services. or use the internet without chrome. or... shit, sorry, I don't have time to list all the ways google wants the exact opposite of anything anywhere remaining "open" unless by "open" they mean "open to google's exploitation".

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 33 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Using the internet without Chrome is basically the only thing you CAN do on Android out of this list.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 23 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] Crozekiel@lemmy.zip 16 points 3 days ago

And google definitely doesn't like that. lol

[–] LightDelaBlue@jlai.lu 5 points 2 days ago

ok now make them pay tax.

[–] zackhow@programming.dev 164 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The fine is not the largest ever imposed on Google, however.

In October 2024 a charge was brought against the firm by a Russian court for restricting Russian state media channels on YouTube.

The fine was for two undecillion roubles - more than the world's total GDP.

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[–] radiouser@crazypeople.online 145 points 4 days ago (4 children)

about 0.11% of Google (Alphabet)'s total worth.

[–] joyjoy@piefed.social 90 points 4 days ago

the price of doing business

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 46 points 4 days ago (2 children)

The question is how much money did they make by using Android to block rivals. If using Android helped them make 1bn extra then this fine costs them 3bn and it doesn't make sense from them to keep doing it. If they made 100bn than obviously they will continue.

[–] thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world 27 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I mean, with it they've managed to build a walled garden that includes the majority of every phone in the world.

We can probably assume trillions.

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[–] Jiral@lemmy.world 22 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Total Worth doesn't matter. What matters is revenue and profit and that is the basis for the fine.

[–] Reddfugee42@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

When it comes to something punitive like a fine, fine versus worth is literally the only thing that matters. If the fine isn't big enough, it's more like a fee for doing business. They just added to the bottom line and keep rolling.

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[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Chump change. Market cap: $4.4T. The cost of doing business is just scaling while normal people money is not.

[–] sonofearth@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Agree with “just cost of doing business” argument for Google. But market cap and fine amount ratio are totally unrelated. A company’s stock price can be highly inflated in trillions in market cap and yet can have negligible incoming cash like maybe a few million dollars. So a fine of billion would definitely hurt them a lot.

[–] pirate2377@lemmy.zip 42 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Wait, Google is actually facing consequences. Am I dreaming?

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

No, they are just getting a slap on the wrist.

It just sounds like a lot because we're poor peasants who think a thousand dollars is a life changing amount of money.

To company like google, 4 billion dollars is pocket change. a small evil tax compared to what they've made doing the evil.

It'd be like you setting up an illegal hotdog stand, making 2000 dollars selling hotdogs all day, then the government coming by and fining you 20 bucks for it, but not before getting a free hotdog with a wink wink nudge nudge.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 24 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I farted a few minutes ago. Google knows this and was able to monetize the sale of that data. My flatulence paid that fine.

These are not consequences. This is zero-calorie consequences.

[–] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Not zero calorie. They made more off your data and that shitty fine was a small cost of doing business.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Fun fact: I haven’t farted in hours. The misdirect both proves my point and devalues their product. Hilarious blip in the data.

Also, excuse to increase Taco Bell intake.

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[–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

Not really. They’ve made probably a few hundred billion from what they’ve done to be fined $5bil. Just a cost of business expense at this level.

[–] sunbytes@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

They'll probably appeal and do bullshit to negotiate it down and defer the payment.

So, a consequence, but one absolutely built into the budget of the things they're being fined for.

Edit: oh wait i misread. This is actually something they already appealed and negotiated down already. The original judgement was years ago.

[–] Jiral@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Yes, that was already the appeal and Google lost in court. There is no regress to that. Google has to pay that fine.

[–] tirateimas@lemmy.pt 81 points 4 days ago (6 children)

Now lets use part of that money, to fund the development of open alternatives and interoperable protocols / standards. We cannot break a duopoly, if there aren't any alternatives, otherwise it will keep being a duopoly.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 14 points 4 days ago (2 children)

4 billion can go a very long way.

[–] cheat700000007@lemmy.world 25 points 4 days ago (6 children)

Believe it or not, straight to data centers

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[–] disorderly@lemmy.world 95 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Google's behavior in this debacle has been utterly shameful. They got caught with their dick in the pie and have spent 8 fucking years arguing that it was for the good of society.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 44 points 4 days ago

have spent 8 fucking years arguing

Part of the plan.

[–] thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago

While continuing to thrust harder.

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[–] BrightCandle@lemmy.world 71 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Need another one now for all the removal of side loading, that is another big antitrust issue. Best make the fine actually worth something this time.

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[–] notsosure@sh.itjust.works 48 points 4 days ago (47 children)

👍🏽great stuff. BTW, stop using google products, there are enough good alternatives.

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[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago (4 children)

And once again, Apple gets a pass for doing the same thing, only worse.

[–] GoatSynagogue@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago (20 children)

Apple don’t do anything remotely similar. Apple don’t let other manufacturers use iOS. What are you even talking about?

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[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 23 points 4 days ago

Snack money.

[–] ape_arms@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] Rothe@piefed.social 32 points 4 days ago (2 children)

European Commission of course. They are the only ones left in the world trying to rein in the tech giants.

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