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[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 24 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Good way to ppl hate Christianity growing up. Being raised Christian by wacky jobs made me disgusted with the church and leadership.

The thing that turned me away from the church was the church.. I hope this is reversed before then, but if not I hope it backfires spectacularly. The sort of people who are pushing it obviously don't know kids at all, especially teenagers.

[–] Gonzako@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

Can confirm.

[–] Hapankaali@lemmy.world 25 points 3 days ago

A flagrant violation of separation of church and state, but at least mandatory Bible reading does wonders to promote atheism. It's not for naught that reading the Bible was prohibited in medieval times.

[–] luthis@lemmy.nz 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] osanna@lemmy.vg -1 points 2 days ago

No, but neither can children everywhere

[–] 58008@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago

That book is filled with rape, genocide and lots (and I mean LOTS) of genital mutilation. I don't know why they'd want kids reading it. Especially when the people forcing it on students are the same ones trying to ban books about being kind to gay people.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Joke's on them, the children can't read.

[–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 days ago

Hate people are ignoring the social studies changes being made to promote christian nationalism, remove world history, promote islamaphobia and removing most substance on minorities rights and oppression.

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

As someone who supports reading the bible by choice (whether you’re religious or not, it’s a really interesting canon), what they’re mandating is like requiring students to read specific passages from Animal Farm or Hamlet.

In what way does a few out of context passages from a book that’s part of an assembled collection of works central to one religion, that’s then grouped with a collection of letters from a secondary religion, teach students anything except dogma overlaid over the passages without appropriate context?

I mean, they could have at least selected things like the beattitudes or the parable of the Good Samaritan or the book of Philemon if they wanted something Christian; instead they picked out of context passages from works from the Jewish canon. And I doubt they’re teaching why Jonah didn’t want to go to Nineveh in the first place, OR the end of the story that sums up its point.

[–] HAL_9_TRILLION@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

whether you’re religious or not, it’s a really interesting canon

As someone who has read the entire Bible more than once due to a strict religious upbringing: what the fuck are you on about. There's nothing in any way interesting about it. It's simplistic, barbaric - and worse - BORING - and loathsome from front to back. It's not particularly original or novel nor does it in any way recommend itself unless you are a fan of misogyny, slavery, murder and outright genocide.

in this interesting canon you will read about the God that murdered a baby because its father committed adultery and murder (2 Samuel 12:1-24). The God that snuffed out the lives of 42 children for calling one of His prophets "old bald head" (2 Kings 2:23,24). The God who kills people for picking up sticks on the Sabbath (Numbers 15:32-36) and for trying out of reflex to keep the Ark of the Covenant from falling off an oxcart (2 Samuel 6:6,7). The same God who commands His followers to slaughter every living Hittite without mercy, women and children slaughtered in a bloody rampage (Deuteronomy 20:15-18). The God who destroyed the lives of everyone in the entire cities of Sodom and Gomorrah, though sparing the life of the "righteous" man Lot, who was so "tormented" by the "lawless deeds" and "loose conduct" of the Sodomites that he got completely shitfaced one night and knocked up both his daughters. (2 Peter 2:7,8; Genesis 19:30-38). The God who consigned all of humanity to live in misery and suffering until their pathetic death ends it all because two people ate a piece of fruit they were told not to eat (Romans 5:12). The same God that had His favorite Son murdered by torture, nailed to a piece of wood in order to restore what He took away in the first place (Genesis 3:22).

SO INTERESTING!

[–] FishFace@piefed.social 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You seem to be conflating "interesting" with "morally correct". Yes, all of that is interesting.

You seem to be conflating "interesting" with "morally correct".

That's true. I react because the only thing most people know about this book is that a significant number of people in the world look at it as some kind of blueprint for good living, even when they haven't read it or even portions of it. Look at the OP for crying out loud.

There are people in the world who find Hitler "interesting" - and such people are not all the same, but everyone generally understands this and knows why. Not so much with the Bible.

Also it really is actively boring. The stories are not well written or in any way engaging to a modern sensibility, because they are catechisms as much as they are stories. I immediately suspect people who laud the writing of apologia not intellectualism.

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I'm a hardcore atheist and if you can't find anything philosophically interesting in the bible I think you're blinded by trauma.

How about Kierkegaard's discourses on Matthew, for example?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Discourses

In the context of whether it should be mandated reading in HS fuck no. But it's important in relation to western literature, so if you go into the humanities you'd better have a passing familiarity with it.

[–] HAL_9_TRILLION@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

haha thanks but part of my prior programming was to read meta commentary about the Bible as well. I've read more commentary about Matthew (not to mention Mark, Luke and John) than I have read of the Bible itself.

In my studied opinion, it's not worth that kind of attention, nothing in the Bible is. I promise you I won't waste another second of my life reading any more of it and I truly suggest that no one else does either.

Sure I've got trauma, but suggesting I'm blinded by it is some apologist bullshit. It's all boring AF.

You're a "hardcore atheist" are you? I find that fairly shocking. I'm reminded of a quote from the book Decline and Fall by Evelyn Waugh: “He seems deeply interested in Church matters. Are you quite sure he is right in the head? I have noticed again and again since I have been in the Church that lay interest in ecclesiastical matters is often a prelude to insanity.”

[–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Ah yeah, No True Atheists

[–] garbagehead@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

They made bogus, half propagandic history part of our required reading. We figure things out after we leave high school, hopefully.

[–] duckCityComplex@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

I wonder if you'd be allowed to read some other passages in addition to the required ones?

Like the part where the one prophet has God summon a bear from the woods to maul like one or two dozen kids because they called him bald.

Or the part where the Israelites convince another group of people that they want to make peace and convince them to get circumcized as a sign of good will, then they massacre them all while the men are recuperating from the circumcisions, and God is basically like "good one!"

There are a lot of illuminating passages that would help kids make a proper judgment as to whether the Bible is really the product of an omniscient, benevolent being.

[–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

I suggest Judges (action/brutal violence) and Song of Solomon (smut), those always made church go by faster as a teenager.

[–] SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The US is one executive order away from being a "Christian Nation." Then watch the MAGA incels cry when they can't even get softcore pr0n.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

been collecting a bunch just to sell it once that happens. I'll be turning in every single magat once all traces are cleared that lead back to me.

[–] Kintarian@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Satanic Bible?