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[–] someone@lemmy.today 98 points 2 days ago (5 children)

You know what would help this situation?

AI

Lots and lots of AI.

Also more religion.

[–] 14th_cylon@lemmy.zip 24 points 2 days ago

You know what would help this situation? AI

Damn snowflakes. In our days we would have fixed that with a photoshop.

[–] vivalapivo@lemmy.today 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Unironically yes. AI would help us to change the climate

[–] mabeledo@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] vivalapivo@lemmy.today 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

When 10k more data centers are built, the climate will be way beyond the tipping point

[–] mabeledo@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So, helping for the worse?

[–] vivalapivo@lemmy.today 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I haven't said helping people, I said helping in changing the climate, or helping increasing shareholders' value or whatever

[–] LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 days ago

Make it hotter, duh

[–] blackbrook@mander.xyz 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Also let's concentrate most of the world's wealth into the hands of a handful of creepy psychopaths. That would probably solve everything.

[–] CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

The world needs more bond villains.

[–] D_C@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Oh, thank the merciful lord and saviour.

I was a bit worried that we were actually going to have to do something meaningful there for a second, phew!!

[–] Ophrys@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Anyway check out my new truck "the gas guzzler 4000"

[–] Jolteon@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

Don't worry, it's super environmentally friendly since it's a hybrid and can drive for two miles on electric power!

[–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

AI will totally develop to a point it comes up with a miracle solution that needs no change in lifestyle or social system. /s

[–] Peanutbjelly@sopuli.xyz 2 points 6 hours ago

I think AI will be really really useful for a lot of things. Not just LLMs for those that only see chatgpt as AI.

That being said, you're good damn right that no human progress matters when we aren't allowed to try a system other than "give everything we gain to the people who already have everything.

Technology has given us so much more ability to create and sustain, yet. Even people in wealthier counties have only had their standard of living standards or go down due to enshittification/instrumental convergence and lack of antitrust stopping growth-maximizing tumours from further monopolizing.

We can actually create reliable frameworks for a better society, with More responsive firm of growth that wasn't built hundreds of years ago when we didn't have a very good comprehension around some things.

Billionaires should not own the media. Billionaires should not direct text and science research. Billionaires should not be immune from accountability. Groups like the heritage foundation should have long been met with the violence currently being imposed on students, scientists, and actual journalists through the administration.

Making monopolistic power consolidating into a firm of free speech was already a final nail in the neoliberal coffin, splitting people between a fascist cult, people who still haven't realized that neoliberal performative faux progression is just a wing of the fascists, and both are furiously fighting the left, actual progressives, scientists, historians, and experts in living systems/epistemology, or the actual study of intelligence and what we've already been able to learn from it.

On the whole, we can actually conceptualize the proper way to balance systems in a way that appropriately improves the environment for literally everyone. Even billionaires would likely be more happy, just less able to treat the whole of humanity as a play thing.

Not enabling the richest asshole to casually decide a million+ of the poorest should go die because we need trillions in tax cuts for billionaires for some reason.

[–] EvilBit@lemmy.world 61 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Conservative politics: apocalypse any% speedrun

[–] monkeyslikebananas2@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago

You’re not wrong, that’s literally their goal.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is also how I see the movie Idiocracy vs Reality. Reality is plain worse

[–] heartSagan5@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago

Yeah, the dummies said “bet” and no one has curbed their child rearing to reduce overall impact.

[–] daannii@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Data centers are fast tracking climate change

[–] Chaf@slrpnk.net 19 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Don't blame everything on the data centers. Everything else is doing its part in contributing to climate change.

Apart from that data centers, at the scale at which we seem them pop up now, are way too young to have a considerable effect on the current heat wave. Which doesn't mean that they won't in the future. Climate change is, after all, a decades long project

[–] daannii@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Absolutely. It's not something new nor caused by something new.

But trump has cut a lot of green laws for data centers. And power plants.

And the sheer amount of additional heat and power consumption these data centers that are running, are using is insane. Akin to adding another few states worth of power and pollution in a span of a few years.

Of course that much additional heat and green house gasses makes a difference. I mean, my understanding is we are probably already past the point of fixing it.

The best we can do is completely stop green house gasses now and hope the extreme consequences only last a few hundred years.

But trump and these data centers are currently undoing all of the progress that has been made (here in the U.S anyway).

Not that much progress was made. But there were corporate interest efforts.

I mean let's be real. The epa regulations were still absurd before Trump cut them, and they never fine anyone even though it sure seems like literally every company has been lying about meeting those restrictions.

[–] Chaf@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 day ago

Sure, I basically agree with everything you said. The thing is that even without data centers we'd be in this mess. I'm not trying to defend them, they definitely undo the little progress that was made. However, Trump would have undone the regulations with or without the data centers.

It's just that it's not only data centers that are fast tracking climate change. I mean... gestures broadly at everything basically everything is fast tracking climate change.

I guess you definitely are right in the sense that it's one of the sources that's among the easiest to get rid of.

[–] prex@aussie.zone 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Its a millennia long project.

This is another reason why geoengineering is such a bad idea. Even if you stumble onto something that works without killing everyone, you have to consistently do it for many centuries.

[–] SpongyAneurysm@feddit.org 3 points 2 days ago

Well, it's enough to work on the project for decades, the effects will be felt for millenia though.

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 25 points 3 days ago (8 children)

Helps that Europe is warming faster than the global average. Karma, I guess.

[–] FundMECFS@piefed.zip 5 points 2 days ago

Yet those most affected by heatwaves are elderly and chronically ill people who can‘t afford proper cooling technology.

It‘s not hurting those in power, it‘s hurting those already marginalised.

[–] Seppo@sopuli.xyz 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 33 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Europe (alongside the USA and other countries of the "western world") has been releasing disgusting amounts of climate change-inducing gases since the 18th century, and they (alongside the USA) were the main profiteers of climate pollution until the latter half of the 20th century. Arguably still are, though other countries like China and Brazil also play a part now.

Granted, this treats nations as monoliths, it's not like the population of most countries really had a choice for the most part.

[–] Tehdastehdas@piefed.social 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Jakylla@jlai.lu 2 points 1 day ago

The fact that Aviation and Maritime transports are visible, alongside large countries and continents emissions, is absolutely nuts.

[–] rhubarbe@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

In context: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/co-emissions-per-capita?time=earliest..2024

Per capita Europe is close to world average. Your comment makes no sense.

(I'm a bit harsh)

[–] Chaf@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Nice of you to side-track with current emissions (per capita even), and not cumulative historical emissions, which were actually mentioned.

Feel free to compare different countries yourself: https://ourworldindata.org/co2-emissions-metrics (~~I'm not sure why ourworldindata doesn't just put all of this on one page instead of splitting it up. It's always a hassle to find the right one~~ it even is on the same page, I just didn't look close enough) The more interesting comparison might be high-income vs low-income countries.

To get back to the discussion: Yes, Europes share is not as huge as it used to be, and it's getting lower, but what can be seen from @Tehdastehdas@piefed.social graph is that that's less due to Europe behaving better and rather due to other countries polluting more. Not a good argument for saying "Europe is doing better now"

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

Right now, yes, but for the vast majority of history it wasn't even close. Your link shows that China only met the EU's per capita emissions in 2013, when climate change was already pretty far along. And they are still profiting from their past emissions via the wealth and societal development that they generated back then.

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[–] catboat@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 days ago
[–] rmuk@feddit.uk 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That bottom image is, like, the most aggressively chic weather forecast I've ever seen.

[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 days ago
[–] Etterra@discuss.online 2 points 2 days ago
[–] wyldrstallyns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

"I feel better!"

"Shutup, you're dead."

cat in background, being swung, yowling

"Actually, might go for a walk."

[–] thejml@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago

"I feel happy!"

"You're not fooling anyone."

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Washedupcynic@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 days ago

But at least we generated value for the shareholders.

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