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[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 165 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I think it's important to understand, these people believe that they already control the world. From their perspective, they aren't "trying", they're doing. And they believe they have the right to do so. They believe that having wealth makes them more important and more capable than everyone else, even though the reality is often that having wealth separates them from having to actually do anything for themselves, making them less capable and less experienced than everyone else.

The rest of us, our needs, our concerns, our desires, our lives... none of that matters to them, except when it either enables or impedes getting what they want.

The only thing preventing the entire world from being stuck in complete, abject despotism is that these people are often at each other's throats. When they collude, everything they touch turns to garbage.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 27 points 2 months ago

The only thing preventing the entire world from being stuck in complete, abject despotism is that these people are often at each other's throats. When they collude, everything they touch turns to garbage.

That's the hope. I'm sure there are a handful of billionaires who are decent enough people, tech co-founders who didn't get all weird about the tech money. But the other 98% are legit sociopaths. They can't co-exist for long, they're all secretly undercutting each other. It's in their nature.

One possible future is letting the dragons fight it out, and picking off the stragglers. Fingers crossed 🤞

[–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Imagine fighting a long war where one side knows they are fighting the war, and a vast majority of the other side thinks they are trying to help them.

There's no war other than class war. We've been fighting it for centuries. Remember that.

[–] BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Right but there are people amongst us poor who threw their lot in with the wealthy years ago. They're as much the enemy because they would fight on the side of wealth.

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[–] jimmy90@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

i think the oligarchs do defacto control a significant chunk of the world and they are trying to exercise that control to enact their deranged ai-hallucination-like version of reality that their confirmation broken brains think should be done

thankfully they do not share these visions with eachother commonly and nation states are slowly making laws to prevent them abusing the global financial system

[–] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 months ago

Being insulated from reality and surrounded by sycophants causes literal brain damage.

[–] Herr_S_aus_H@lemmy.zip 87 points 2 months ago (24 children)

This is the reason why I always get way to mad at conspiracy theorists. You don't have to make up some shadowy cabal or the jews, be mad at the wealthy oligarchs.

[–] Susaga@sh.itjust.works 44 points 2 months ago (3 children)

One theory I heard: Crazy conspiracy theories were created by the government to make legitimate conspiracy theories look ridiculous by association. "Oh, you think there's an island of pedophile billionaires running the world? I bet you also think the moon landing was fake." A classic "the butts match" gambit.

[–] Herr_S_aus_H@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I don't think it is planed like the conspiracy theories are created but ampliefed to distroy the public trust and muddy the waters, I don't think that is too far fetched.

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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Which is why Alex Jones was a CIA asset whether he knew it or not

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[–] terranoid@lemmy.cafe 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Shadow cabal and oligarchy aren't mutually exclusive. Seems to me the oligarchs are just the more obvious nodes of the shadow cabal web, the fuckers with the money and power that can go on TV and talk directly to senators.

Go one step back away from the limelight and you get dudes like Cheney, Bannon, people who interact with all the obvious oligarchs but don't need to post on social media and don't need to stay relevant to constituents. And then people like Epstein, agents in the field gathering blackmail.

Shit is pretty fucking crazy tbh.

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[–] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Thats level one feury. Level 2 is when they tell you a well known asshole billionaire is going to fight the shadow cabal for us.

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[–] LittleBorat3@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

You know them, you know their names, net worth ranked etc.

Among other things they were high on ket and thought they can teabag democracy in the face because everyone is so dumb.

They have shits for brains now that betray the game blatantly.

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[–] MutantTailThing@lemmy.world 48 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Why yes they’re called ‘billionaires’ and there’s like 3.5 thousand of them.

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Sorry for this odd question, but why "3.5 thousand" instead of 3500 or 3.5k?

[–] bort@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

"3,5 thousand" seems common in spoken language, but not in writing, afaik. I don't know how common it is in english (and dialects), but in german it is.

[–] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 months ago

Its fine, but in English, three and a half thousand (fraction rather than decimal) is probably more common.

[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 34 points 2 months ago (4 children)

More accurate to say "several overlapping cabals trying to expand their own fifedoms"

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] psycotica0@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 months ago

No no, those are fife drums

[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 3 points 2 months ago

I spell bad a lot, but I'm keeping my typo as-is so this makes sense in the future, as it made me laugh.

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[–] VinesNFluff@pawb.social 32 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Conspiracy theories are controlled opposition.

Tell people to be mad at a made up shadow cabinet of rich lizard people who run the world in secret so they won't be mad at the actual, real, existing cabinet of rich human people who run the world out in the open.

[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 7 points 2 months ago

Yup. It's just people. And we can still mend this.

Don't fall for the "it's an all powerful force beyond your reach" misdirection.

The emperor wears no clothes. We see the man behind the curtain.

[PS, "conspiracy theories"'s a term the crooks have used to dissuade scrutiny of them.]

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[–] Shameless@lemmy.world 29 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Whilst this was always obvious and is not at all surprising, it's definitely worth reviewing the list which someone took the time to compile: https://github.com/nzaki-dev/dialog

[–] GMac@feddit.org 6 points 2 months ago

There are a couple of names im disappointed to see there. Robert Cialdini, Adam Grant, Jonathan Haidt stand out as likely speakers rather than members. Tim Urban and Josh Brolin are odd inclusions... unless the latter really is Thanos

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[–] luthis@lemmy.nz 25 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What's next? 'Actually, the sky is blue'

[–] sundray@lemmus.org 14 points 2 months ago

🤷 New people get born every day. Gotta restate the obvious from time to time, make sure everyone is caught up.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago (3 children)

How many of them have been on Rogan?'

[–] LittleBorat3@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Who hasn't? Simpler that way. Someone showed up with money at Joe's, 2012 if I had to bet.

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[–] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Escape13@slrpnk.net 11 points 2 months ago

And compost them too!

[–] dan1101@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I almost wonder if Rogan is a useful idiot, if someone running his show is the elite crazy or at least wannabe elite.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 2 months ago

No need to wonder, it's been obvious for years now.

Being a useful idiot doesn't require the person being aware of their idiotic usefulness. Usually they aren't.

[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 months ago

I think Rogan believes he's in charge though. He talks like he's making his own decisions.

Undoubtedly he's being manipulated but yeah at the very least he's a useful idiot.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 months ago

Yes, and that someone is largely believed to be Thiel.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 16 points 2 months ago

Other talks include “Build-a-Cult,” moderated by the founder of the Christian networking site Pray.com

I mean, we all know what these people are about but I'm just taken back by the brazenness and openness of all of it.

This is basically "Yes, I made a cult to become a billionaire with a following, what about you?" and somehow nobody bats an eye? That is, of course, nobody that could do something about this.

[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

There Really ARE Cabals of Elite Crazies Trying to Control the World
It's more than this one.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

“As you are probably aware I represent the Rothschild’s” -Jeffery Epstein in email to Peter Thiel

[–] hopesdead@startrek.website 9 points 2 months ago

Is Inside Job based on a true story?

[–] Bo7a@piefed.ca 7 points 2 months ago

This shit never changes.

And this is good old Boston, The home of the bean and the cod, Where the Lowells talk only to the Cabots, And the Cabots talk only to God

  • John Bossidy, 1910.
[–] Binturong@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 months ago

yes... trying...

[–] droniecarp@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 months ago

It's not a cabal, it's all narcissists with money competing against each other. They all know what's best for them and are the main characters in their feeble minds.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No, there's not.

There's many of them, and they are all rich and trying to stab each other's backs to get more power and money.

[–] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And history shows that EVERY time they felt their wealth and power were genuinely threatened, they conceded both. You don't even need a bloody revolution, they just need to see that it is a possibility before their thin skin starts crawling.

The british monarchy saw the french revolution and invented the parliamentary system. The robber barron's saw the communist revolutions in the east and suddenly the new deal, suffrage, and civil rights. Today, the billionaires are outclassed and out numbered worse than either of those examples, and will crumple like a paper tiger the second their facade is broken. All they have is their propaganda networks to protect them.

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 3 points 2 months ago

And history shows that EVERY time they felt their wealth and power were genuinely threatened

Watching Musk get behind a mic and start bellyaching about declining fertility rates is rather revealing

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 4 points 2 months ago

Having a lot of money doesn't make you immune to grifters, bullshit, facebook cooker theories or just plain going nuts.

[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 3 points 2 months ago

"They know what's good for them" -- George Carlin

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