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Ford is set to become the first to use LFP batteries in a mainstream EV in the US, starting with its $30,000 midsize pickup.

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[–] sorghum@sh.itjust.works 37 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

So long as Ford doesn't botch this like they did with the lightning, it'll be great. With the lightning, they stopped letting regular people buy the base model unless you were a fleet manager. Even then, when the dealers got the base models they were marking them up $30k over MSRP (during and shortly after covid).

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Gotta love the US. Here in Canada it’s illegal to sell over MSRP. There are a TONNE of Lightnings in my area. Now when I get one will have to be used unfortunately. Really sad.

[–] bluGill@fedia.io 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Chevy has some EV silverados that look good on paper. I've never seen reports on how they do in the real world though. If the minimum price wasn't so high I'd have looked closer to replace my last truck. (maybe in a few years)

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

We need the Hilux BEV here.

[–] nbailey@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That didn’t really stop Canadian dealers from being scummy. I saw a bunch of “used” lightnings that were ~2 mo old and had ~2,000 km on them, being sold well above MSRP.

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

Strange. Several of the dealers around here had dozens of them sitting new on the lots.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

Strange....they dropped the price on brand new ones so low a friend bought one for his household and one for his business in 23.

[–] fascicle@leminal.space 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Aren't they coming out with the new lightning? Its supposed to have a gas generator onboard to extend its range up to 700 miles or like half of that when towing, which is what I heard was a major complaint on the battery only lightning

Edit: https://www.equipmentworld.com/trucks/pickups/article/15814463/nextgen-ford-f150-lightning-to-get-gas-generator-to-extend-range

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yes. Personally, would rather have a full BEV. Don’t do any towing long distance, so don’t need the extra complexity, repair and weight of the generator.

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I really don’t get why they did that. They marked up the Maverick Hybrids too and we ended up getting a more expensive Mazda rather than a Maverick because the markup was so much that the Mazda was cheaper out the door. Not even around Covid either, this was the summer of 24.

[–] sorghum@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

I ended up just buying a Bolt EUV '23 to give to my kids when they start driving and I'll just wait on the used market for me to get a light duty pickup for weekend projects. I get some looks pulling a trailer with my Bolt though, lol. Besides the Bolt did give me a good idea of what EV ownership is like and what I really want on my next EV for road trips; faster fast charge. 10-97% in 9 minutes sounds like a dream compared to my 10-80% in just over an hour in my Bolt.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah but later the dumped them to anyone way below MSRP. Dealers gouged everyone around 2020-22, all companies.

[–] sorghum@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

I was trying to buy one in Jan 2023

[–] pricklypearbear@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Basically an electric Maverick?

[–] finalarbiter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 week ago

Sure looks like it

[–] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Honestly what I’d love to see is more classic vehicles get remade as EVs. Like the VW Bus, could you imagine if they brought back the Bel Air as an EV? It would sell like crazy. That’s how they need to go about getting EVs popularized in the US

[–] lemmylommy@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That’s the one I was talking about above. I was saying I want more of that, but like classic cars like the ‘57 Chevy Bel Air. I’d buy one in a heartbeat if they made one.

Or like could you imagine if they went backwards on the trend of giant trucks and started making smaller classic body trucks, like if they remade the ‘95 Ford Lightning or brought back the El Camino? Smaller vehicle, lighter body, further range on battery and it’d look fucking clean

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[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Uh, VW already tried that and it flopped.

[–] sorghum@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago

It's because of the price. I would've bought one already of it didn't cost so damn much.

[–] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Idk. I’ve seen a few, but it’s also a bus so I can see the lack of appeal. Minivans haven’t been popular for sometime. Try a more popular classic body and the reception would be wildly different.

[–] noodles@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 week ago

I think it's more likely to have flopped because it's a $60k+ car with less range and barely faster charging than the (until recently) $20k Chevy bolt, and it's big appeal would be road trips that it can't competently handle. If they had sold it at a price competitive with its actual competition, e.g. other minivans, and/or if it had decent range it probably would have done better.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

In Ontario, there is a 14 month waiting list for a Sienna. The only other option is the Chrysler Pacifica and people would rather wait a year than drive that turd.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

Because it had poor interior room and a stupid price. Exact opposite of the vanagon.

[–] nerv@fedinsfw.app 0 points 1 week ago

You're thinking about the VW Bus, now presented as the Buzz?

Unsurprising.

It was never about revamping the classic, in its concept, but capitalizing on nostalgia.

By contrast, Renault brought back their legendary Model 5 and regardless the car being a behemoth compared to the original, it captured and delivered a new car built on a nostalgic concept.

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

Oh fuck me! An all electric, or even hybrid 57 bel air? I just jizzed my pants at the idea

[–] Skyrmir@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Just in time for BYD to start shipping sodium battery powered that are cheaper.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Just make an affordable hatchback EV what the hell I hate this country FFS.

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

“Pickup”, it’s a sport cute missing some roof.

[–] CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (14 children)
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[–] darkangelazuarl@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Looks like its still lacking a did cent sized bed. Hopefully they start giving bed/cab size options for these EVs.

[–] Iconoclast@feddit.uk 1 points 1 week ago

It's ridiculous. Maxxus T90 similarly only offer version with long cab and short bed. This way the manufacturers ensure that nobody whose like me and actually uses a pickup to transport stuff won't buy it.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Well ok, but I bet it won't look like a car-of-the-future slapped together from sheet metal for a cheesy sci-fi movie.

[–] LemmingLemur@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Chevy already uses LFP batteries in their '27 EVs...

That sub headline is horribly wrong and Electrek should have known better.

Many OEMs have used LFP batteries in the cars.

These seem to be the first US made LFPs in a car, as before those were only made in China.

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