usa could have won the war but trump had a date with a tween at a very crucial juncture in the negotiations and missed a "war winning" opportunity. /s
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Great, now that that's done... Can we get back to the TRUMP-EPSTEIN FILES (TM) ?
No, we didn't lose.
We surrendered.
And you know what? Sure. That's the right move. We shouldn't have fucking invaded them to begin with.
Fucking Trump. What a goddamn moronic dumbass he is.
What a goddamn ~~moronic dumbass he is~~ prolific executor and efficient implementer of putin's and xi's blackmail demands on him
Pretty sure you have to have shame to be blackmailed. We all know what trump did, he doesn't give a shit.
Bro, there is video and picture evidence this guy joyously ritualistically torturing, raping, and killing children and babies.
In case you you haven't had your soul ripped out yet, go on a little quest to find out what "u9 red pizza party" means in the Epstein files.
He's not running away from shame. He's running away from the death penalty.
Ok yes but… isn’t surrendering claiming you lost?
Can't lose a war if you never call it a war.
Ask the Mimbari
What a dumb loser
He may be a dumb loser but don't forget he's also in the Epstein files.
What a dumb ass in Epstein files loser
That's the Trump-Epstein Files™.
Don't forget the Trump files, that Epstein collected on him for the Mossad to force them into war together with Israel if needed, like with Iran for example, and which Epstein also sold pieces of to Putin.
THE BIGGEST, BESTEST, MOST WONDERFUL MENTIONS I THE EPSTEIN FILES. THE LIKES NO ONE HAS EVER SEEN! EVERYONE IS SAYING SO!
FIFA wants to give the a new prise they just made for me, the world piece (of shit) price for the most honorably mentions in the Epstein files. It even comes with a medal.
Americans, especially the Government, all have a collective delusion that the United States place in the world is just the way it was right after WW2 and nothing will ever change it. Over the next decade or so, reality will continue setting in...
Operation Epic Failure. The primary shows was in the southern Lebanon and the West Bank, while the MAGA led fiasco was the side show.
The problem now is that Mr Trump has endowed Iran with a far more useful option than any nuclear device: the effective weaponisation of the Strait of Hormuz. This is a weapon of mass economic destruction of unique power. It was given satisfactory proof of use during the conflict, when not even US armed forces and a naval counter-blockade could prevent an enfeebled Tehran from taking the world economy hostage.
Nukes are defensive, this seems to work for both defence and offence
It only works when the US navy doesn't engage the way it can. Trump lost there because he pulled out the navy but left it limp, just sitting on the front yard. If it went hard and actually did something substantial, the picture would have been very different.
How could the navy had gone harder? Should they move closer so air refueling is not necessary? This would probably get them hit.
Trump ran into the same problem Dubya and his daddy did in Iraq & Afghanistan- sure we can topple the government and defeat their military. That's easy-peasy. But after we do that, who's gonna run the country? In all cases, the answer is "nobody who is acceptable to the US", so the US ends up having to step in and run the place for a time so that it doesn't immediately devolve into "new boss, same old bullshit". Leave a political vacuum in that part of the world and it gets filled by Al Quaida, ISIS, Taliban, or other radical groups that battle it out among themselves for decades, creating another Lebanon. Or Iraq. Or Afghanistan.
The government has been trying this weird half-assed interventionism since actual interventionism is such a hard sell post-Iraq and Afghanistan. Some bombing here, an attempt to arm rebel groups there... and if it fails, that's for the locals to clean up. I'd argue this goes back to Obama and Trump continued it, but in a room temp IQ way that only Trump can manage.
If by different you mean the loss of american war ships and the same result, sure.
Not saying those are not capable ships, just that that is not the environment they where made to operate in. A nightmare theater for any navy, let alone one with almost no small escort ships (an issue they are well aware of). To make it worse there is nothing for them to do, nothing to really fight there, just risk, mines, minisubs, and land based death. I can see an destroyer in that strait intercepting missiles and drones all day, but to what end? No civilian tanker was going to join them.
It sounds like cope but... yeah pretty much this. Trump was too scared of dead soldiers, a sunk boat or downed planes to allow any commitment of assets in a way that would have accomplished any of his goals, and as a result the US military was stuck with strategies proved useless by HERMANN FUCKING GORING. It was such a fucking ridiculous loss of life because seventy years of military history have shown that it could never have accomplished anything and was entirely just trump being a pissbaby, but this time with a couple thousand dead people as a backdrop.
FUCK this fucking administration.
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Not a war. Lol
I'm happy with this result. I was rooting against America for the whole conflict.
I am rooting against America in general.
America has a big ego and is subservient to Israel. It needs to be humbled so it can stop flexing its nuts and start taking care of its own people.
I say this as one of those people in America watching America punish transwomen instead of combating food insecurity...
I’m happy we lost but sad that I will be paying for reparations with my tax dollars.
The US has been on the losing side of every armed conflict it’s been involved with for the past 80 years.
Its current “leadership” believes that streak is at least twice that.
Didn't America win the war with Iraq though? I could be wrong since I'm not super informed on the war in Iraq, but we militarily defeated Saddam Hasan. Other than that though, if you count both sides in the Korean War as losers, then you're right
They won the opening act, and the operation was one of the best ever pulled off but they lost the overall conflict when they had to abandon Iraq. Although Gulf War 1 and 2 are studied as examples of great execution of a military strike campaign. The issue is that unlike the Gulf Wars where the us did strikes then claimed the win (with some oil set on fire), in 2003 they did the strikes, then stuck around. The us never wins in a conflict where they have to hold conquered ground, they are really bad with it. I can't think of a time they have succeeded, WW1 and 2 they did not have to hold territory alone, and more or less liberated and joint occupied places, in Korea they fucked up and got China involved leading to a never ending conflict that is still technically going, they got their ass kicked out of Vietnam, Bay of pigs was a failure before it really got anywhere, and then there is Afghanistan a total mess.
The wild part to me is that a lot of these conflicts are listed as US wins, or inconclusive when by any real measure they where all massive fuck ups. This last one with Iran did not even get to a point where the US was even getting to the point they where threatened Iran's government, let alone an occupation. Like it was not even possible for the states to get to the point of prior wars before, no real way to invade and not just have massive losses, no real way to hurt Iran outside of war crimes (they did those too but to little effect on Iran's ability to rule). This "war" I think was more impactful as the end of the us empire's mythos, they just showed the world they have very real limits and are no longer the super power they have claimed to be.
Don't forget, this war was very likely initiated by Netanyahu. All they managed to do was make Iran stronger, what a bunch of fucking morons.
No, that wasn't the only outcome. Iran got richer and the world got to see that the military might of the USA is much less mighty than they want the world to know.
That's what happens when you fill the upper ranks with yes-men
Netanyahu is not a moron, making Iran weaker wasn't his goal. Forever war was, to have a foil to play for domestic political purposes.
It's his "keeping himself out of jail" plan. Just like with Thwump. The only way not to go to jail is to stay President.
Exactly what he did with Hamas all these years.
The villain loves creating his own enemies to keep his political career going.
Yep, but his biggest blunder was to trust Trump to help him out all the way. What makes Netanyahu a moron in my books is that now after a few years Iran will be stronger and led by military. It will hurt Israel in the long term.
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Not to mention Gaza and the West Bank has been out of the news cycle. The colonists have been doing some heinous shit since the war happened.
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Man who would have thought that the most incompetent and unqualified demented rapist to ever hold the office would be played like a fucking fiddle.
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300 Billion for nothing other than paying the Military industrial complex.
No it's 300 billion to Iran, but significantly more to rearm the US, Israel and the GCC.
Basically it's the US tax payers getting screwed again and again like those young women on Epstein Island.
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