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[–] tyo_ukko@sopuli.xyz 123 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Don't forget, this war was very likely initiated by Netanyahu. All they managed to do was make Iran stronger, what a bunch of fucking morons.

[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 68 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No, that wasn't the only outcome. Iran got richer and the world got to see that the military might of the USA is much less mighty than they want the world to know.

[–] Dhs92@piefed.social 17 points 20 hours ago

That's what happens when you fill the upper ranks with yes-men

[–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 52 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Netanyahu is not a moron, making Iran weaker wasn't his goal. Forever war was, to have a foil to play for domestic political purposes.

[–] tacoplease@lemmy.world 6 points 10 hours ago

It's his "keeping himself out of jail" plan. Just like with Thwump. The only way not to go to jail is to stay President.

[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 hours ago

Exactly what he did with Hamas all these years.

The villain loves creating his own enemies to keep his political career going.

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 33 points 23 hours ago

Not to mention Gaza and the West Bank has been out of the news cycle. The colonists have been doing some heinous shit since the war happened.

[–] tyo_ukko@sopuli.xyz 9 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Yep, but his biggest blunder was to trust Trump to help him out all the way. What makes Netanyahu a moron in my books is that now after a few years Iran will be stronger and led by military. It will hurt Israel in the long term.

[–] zqps@sh.itjust.works 6 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

That's going to depend on whether US support for the Zionist project will be as unconditional as it has been so far.

[–] optimisticturtle@lemmy.world 1 points 29 minutes ago

The electorate on both sides have definitely soured on Israel, organically. I only expect the evangelicals to stay the same. AIPAC is having to reach deep into its war chest to buy elections and increasingly obfuscate its contributions through shell PACs now.

[–] krisevol@lemmus.org 0 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

The whole point of the war was to stop oil sales in chinese yuan. It's as simple as that.

Gold has been surging and that was because they country was trading gold for yuan to buy oil. Now they can't do that. Oil is traded in USD again.

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 1 points 54 minutes ago* (last edited 53 minutes ago)

Did it stop though? Why can't they use RMB, what changed?

[–] ReptilianCleric@lemmy.zip 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Because of the war, emerging markets are trading oil in yen. I don't know what your talking about.

[–] krisevol@lemmus.org 0 points 11 hours ago

Have you not been following the gold price surging?

[–] GardenGeek@europe.pub 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Unfortunately no, that's not their sole achievement.

Israel has occupied territories in Syria, Lebanon, Palestine and Irak. And will likely annex some areas excusing it with ,,national security interests". In reality the greater aim seem to be ,,greater israel" which covers the whole are promised to them in some obscure book.

[–] Unquote0270@programming.dev 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

They managed to ramp up military/weapons spending in the US and Europe, and massively boosted the price of oil. The idea that Trump lost is naive in my opinion, this was a big cash grab just like Venezuela was and certain people will have profited massively from it.

[–] tyo_ukko@sopuli.xyz 7 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Trump didn't lose, but the US did.

[–] zqps@sh.itjust.works 6 points 17 hours ago

That precisely describes his election and everything since.

[–] Unquote0270@programming.dev 1 points 17 hours ago

Very true although I would extend that to most of the world, it's not just the US suffering from his actions unfortunately.

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world -2 points 1 day ago (5 children)
[–] SwingingTheLamp@piefed.zip 28 points 1 day ago

The moderate voices in its government were purged or killed, the popular protests against the hard-line Islamists have been crushed and sidelined, there's a (tiny, but unprecedented) wedge driven between the U.S. and Israeli leaders, Israel has lost popular support in much of the West, and its ability to put a chokehold on the world economy via the Strait of Hormuz has been demonstrated without any tangible contest.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 day ago

Iran learned they can topple any US government with restrictions on oil. Who needs nukes when you have thirsty brahs in Silverados.

[–] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 0 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Do you seriously need someone to explain to you why the country that just chased the American Empire out of the Persian Gulf is stronger than it was before?

[–] Eat_Your_Paisley@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They're politically stronger now.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 4 points 22 hours ago

they proved they could stand up to the US and win. US proved, again, that bombing countries accomplishes nothing.

[–] lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world 4 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Besides the other replies, Iran has achieved a huge PR coup by revealing that the US is a paper tiger. The popularity of the US among western countries has never been lower because Trump’s Blunder pooched the global economy. Former allies are walking away from economic and military cooperation with the US.

Additionally, the US has to pay Iran 300B in war reparations as part of their surrender. The iranian regime will probably divert those funds to entrench their power.

[–] Rubanski@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 7 hours ago

I really hope that doesn't affect the status quo in the Taiwan strait

[–] tyo_ukko@sopuli.xyz 2 points 18 hours ago

Plus lifted sanctions and likely the right to profit from safe passage over Hormuz.