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[–] nexguy@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago

Mentally diseased woman hating racist antI-semite incel who unapologetically killed innocent people says "fuck the system" and that's what anyone focuses on?

[–] FreddiesLantern@leminal.space 8 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

“Just a sec”

puts on gigantic goose costume

[–] halvar@lemy.lol 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I don't know... I've always found Kaczinsky an interesting guy, but now that I'm around halfway through his book, I find his arguements surprisingly weak as in he doesn't really put a lot of effort into justifying the basics. He just goes on to say "yeah obfuscating the process of survival is bad" and sure I can see how some people might find hunting rabbits with bows more fulfilling than looking at Excel all day but if you don't accept that immediately then his arguements become pretty weak.

[–] ZMoney@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I use Excel to calculate the ages of the oldest rocks in the Solar System. If I was using it to find accounting loopholes for a private equity firm, I'd probably kill myself.

Ted's problem is that he equates the tools and the processes of post-industrial society with its people. Just because the possibility exists for these surrogate activities to replace meaningful work doesn't mean we all succumb automatically.

[–] lastlybutfirstly@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Ted's problem was that he murdered people.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Ted's problem was that he murdered the wrong people. Let's be completely honest if he was killing politicians and their corporate masters he would be a hell of a lot less controversial. So long as fascists, authoritarians, and their weak willed followers exist there is few excuses to kill the innocent, collateral not withstanding if someone took out a small town to kill Musk it'd be acceptable for example.

[–] halvar@lemy.lol 3 points 19 hours ago

"Equating the tools and processes with the people" is such a good way of putting it that I gotta remember to remember it.

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago

I'm impressed you made it half way, the man was not a natural writer by any means.

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 44 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Big Ted. What a nice nickname for someone who I'm sure was a nice young man.

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

His MKULTRA handler gave it to him

"Hey Big Ted how's your brain feeling"

"Good enough to mostly make sense" Industrial Society and its Future

[–] ol_capt_joe@piefed.ee 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Industrial revolution stands on the shoulders of a giant called the agricultural revolution.

I brake for hunter gatherers.

[–] DahGangalang@infosec.pub 9 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Yeah, I see the industrial revolution as an inevitable consequence of the agricultural revolution.

Which is to say:
The agricultural revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

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[–] Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Learning to walk upright and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

(ভ⤙ ভ ")<

[–] sunsofold@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 day ago

Our poor spines.

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[–] Uranus_Hz@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

I identify as a “honkee”

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 10 points 1 day ago (6 children)

We are undeniably better off because of the industrial revolution. It's caused problems but those are well worth it for the benefit.

[–] Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Right now*

We've almost caused, and now will forever have the capacity to cause, a mass extinction event with nuclear bombs. If the cold war had turned hot we probably wouldn't be saying the industrial revolution was "worth it".

There's also the more slow motion extinction event in the form of climate change.

But yes for those living in the west from 1950 ~ 2150 it's a good deal

To quote Zhou Enlai when asked in 1968 about the impacts of the French revolution "it's too early to say"

[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

We are currently experiencing a mass extinction event on a similar scale but greater speed than the Permian mass extinction.

CURRENTLY. It is getting worse.

[–] binux@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Only if you’re basing your assertion on inherently biased criteria. For many in the west it’s better sure, but what about the majority of people in impoverished countries, or less fortunate people in general? How about non-human species that have been losing their natural habitats to pollution and global warming inch by inch, or just human interference in general? Or even species that have been outright driven to extinction by human activity?

I’m not so sure any of that is worth it for a new smart phone every year with only marginally better features. And I hear the new hyped-up technology is pretty much the epitome of an infinite amount of monkeys on typewriters desperate to type up Shakespeare.

[–] Miaou@jlai.lu 2 points 23 hours ago

Of course these people benefited too. Why do you demography in Asia/Africa boomed over the last century?

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[–] TheStaffmaster@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Socialism has been the death of more people mainly because of Capitalist sanctions/meddling to make it fail.

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[–] leaveWitX@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago

If you gain this, you will inevitably lose that.

[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I would argue that the Agricultural Revolution was the turning point that set humanity on its current path, for better and worse.

To be fair, life before agriculture was often harsh, but many of the problems that define civilization today, such as large-scale warfare, rigid social hierarchies, widespread inequality, organized slavery, and systemic exploitation, became possible only after humans settled down and began producing agricultural surpluses.

Regardless of what is happening in the world right now, we are living in one of the most peaceful and prosperous periods in human history. Aside from the anti-vaccination movement, which is a travesty for humanity, we have the best medicine, the highest life expectancy, and the lowest infant mortality rates in history.

That said, I suspect humans are better adapted to living in small migratory bands of hunters and gatherers than in large, sedentary urban societies. Civilization has given us extraordinary technology and material comfort, but it may have come at the cost of the social structures, physical activity, and close-knit communities that humans evolved to thrive in.

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[–] TheStaffmaster@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

getting older is realizing the Unabomber may have had a point...

[–] wezzzy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

No he did not he was a weird transphobic tweak w no sense of how the world actualy works

[–] TheStaffmaster@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

MAY have had a point.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I read his writing for the first time recently. It certainly sticks with you. He was certainly no dummy. I still take issue with some of his stances. Big of me, I know.

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I was about to say, you nod along with Ted until he starts into the racist bits.

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[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I made an attempt to read that guy's book once. Holy hell the man is a nutter, and not a writer by any means.

I made it a quarter of the way through, if that. Absolute waffle.

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[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Fun fact: You wouldn't be driving behind them or honking your horn if it wasn't for the industrial revolution.

The more you know...

[–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

You wouldn't be driving [...]

God that'd have been nice. I rarely drive my car but even that's too much for me. "Hi, yes I would love to sit still staring at another car's bumper for long periods of time where not focusing entirely could kill myself and others. I LOVE being required by urban planning to do that and LOVE being required to spend tens of thousands on maintaining the luxury of it"

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] 0ops@piefed.zip 8 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I still maintain that the humble bicycle is one of humanities greatest inventions. Cheap to build, can be maintained with spit and love, the most efficient mode of transport, and fun to top it off

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I'd say the bicycle easily makes the top 10 of all-time best inventions of humanity.

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[–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago

100%! I got mine fixed up again recently since I'm in office after many years and it's been great

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[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

This bumper sticker is just an edgier version of the "I bought this before Elon went crazy" one.

[–] Willy@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

HONK!

I don't even own this vehicle LOL!

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