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why our phones,pcs,laptops,consoles etc aren't quantum?

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[–] sbeak@sopuli.xyz 2 points 7 hours ago

A lot of people have already mentioned that they are too large and expensive for consumer devices. They also need to be cooled to temperatures very close to absolute zero (using liquid helium) for the superconductors, which adds additional bulk and power draw.

These quantum computers would also require a different architecture that isn't supported by the majority of software and OSs, since they work very differently to standard non-quantum chips. Think how RISC-V isn't very well supported too well right now, and it's much worse than that since the logic gates needed for computation, storage, etc. need to be rewritten entirely due to the use of qubits over bits! Aside for some very specific research bits, there is nearly nothing that can currently run on a quantum computer.

As of right now, even the largest quantum computers only has a few hundreds, maybe a few thousand, qubits, which isn't enough processing power for running a regular desktop OS and consumer applications, even if everything was magically ported to quantum land. Not only that, major hurdle right now is reducing environmental interference from affecting the qubits, meaning there are currently high error rates, i.e. the qubits do not behave.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 16 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

You wouldn't want a quantum computer for everyday computing. They're good at performing very specific types of calculations for research, not running applications.

[–] sanguinepar@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

Although someone will eventually get Doom running on one, I'd imagine.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

Those calculations have been rather academic, usually benchmarks.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago

Because running a quantum computer is horribly expensive. And pointless, as all they seem to be able to run are some quantum computer benchmarks. I still have to see one solving a serious real world computation.

Actually, I personally doubt they will ever reach that point.

[–] unknown1234_5@kbin.earth 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
  1. we just learned how to make them fairly recently
  2. expensive to build
  3. expensive to run
  4. fucking massive if powerful enough to be useful
[–] Chais@sh.itjust.works 10 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)
  1. Uniquely capable of solving very specific problems much faster, but not actually useful for general purpose computing
[–] unknown1234_5@kbin.earth 1 points 12 hours ago

forgot that part

[–] FriendOfDeSoto@startrek.website 18 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Because they'd be much bigger and much, much more expensive. And because they don't run as stably as conventional ones. Yet.

[–] hoshikarakitaridia@lemmy.world 9 points 22 hours ago

I would add to it that quantum computers are very specialized and as of now do not perform better at most conventional tasks.

So similar to APUs / NPUs, they might just be a very specialized PC part if they become available to the broader public at all.

[–] psycotica0@lemmy.ca 14 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

We, as a species, have basically failed to build a single one quantum computer that does anything. So... that's why they're not everything yet. It's because there are currently approximately zero.

And the few there kind of are are massive and requires liquid helium to cool them to ungodly cold temperatures. And even then they don't do much, besides allow researchers to test stuff.

[–] lucullus@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 19 hours ago

Most buzz about quantum computers is how they might be able to break traditional encryption algorithms by fast defactorisation of very big numbers. Though they still owe us proof, that this actually works.

There is this paper, which compares the "big" achievements in quantum defactorisation with a (not really) trained dog. Basically every of these achievements cheated with the prior knowledge of the factors or have chosen convenient numbers, while still being worlds away from common key sizes (like 2048 or 4096 bit).

Real usage for quantum cpmputers will probably still take quite a while to manifest.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 4 points 21 hours ago

they don't really know if they work yet. its research level.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 5 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

I upgraded all of my devices to quantum awhile back. A lot of people like to hold off until the bugs are worked out, but I've always been an early adopter.

[–] Photonic@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

You’re still at the quantum stage? Man if you’re not already living in the post-quantum world, are you really living ?

[–] Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 2 points 20 hours ago

Whoaa... you beat me there. I have to admit I left out the Appelwatch so far.

[–] Steve@communick.news 4 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

They need to be cooled to absolute zero. The hardware to do that weighs a couple thousand pounds, and needs a truckload of liquid helium. There's no real way quantum computers will ever be portable, or even home units.

[–] Photonic@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Well, don’t say never. Forever is a very long time. The scientific world of 100 years ago couldn’t predict PC’s and let alone smartphones based on technology and physics as they were known at the time. It’s insane to think about how much technology is crammed into this small device and how quickly we got here.

[–] Steve@communick.news 1 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm pretty careful with absolute words like that.
There will need to be some major breakthrough in fundamental physics or material science to get the cooling apparatus much smaller than it is. That's highly unlikely.

And quantum computing at higher temps won't work because the nature if it requires the atoms being measured to have zero resting energy.

[–] Photonic@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Of course there will have to be a major scientific breakthrough. As there have been many scientific breakthroughs to get to where we are now with smartphones.

Your smartphone houses a lot of technology that was either nonexistent or room-sized at the time. I mean, in 1926 most people still moved around by horse-and-carriage, we had cameras but they were analog, as were film projectors. Now we have a 4k+ digital camera and an OLED screen and they’re only a small part of an entire array of technology scientists at the time couldn’t even fathom, except for maybe Nikola Tesla, although he also made a lot of predictions that turned out to be false.

[–] Steve@communick.news 1 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

As there have been many scientific breakthroughs to get to where we are now with smartphones.

That was a long series of inevitable predictable progress in engineering.

This isn't a matter of ordinary engineering challenges to be overcome. What I'm talking about is something that upends our understanding of reality. Not just an evolution of what we already know, but a revolution that changes almost everything about our understanding of how the universe works. Discovering new unimagined forms of matter. Things like that.

[–] Photonic@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

That was a long series of inevitable predictable progress in engineering.

If it was so predictable, why couldn’t anyone in 1926 have predicted it with accuracy? The point is, they couldn’t and so can’t we.

Also, it’s definitely about engineering issues. In fact, scientists are already working on ways to overcome the major obstacles you named.

[–] Steve@communick.news 1 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

The general computer didn't exist in 1927. Once it did, yes it was predicted and expected they would get smaller, more powerful, efficient, and common. There was no limitation of physics getting in the way of it.

[–] Photonic@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Of course, every increment is predictable after you make the scientific breakthrough. Not before, though.

[–] Steve@communick.news 1 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

The artificial computer wasn't so much a scientific breakthrough as a conceptual one. It didn't require anything that didn't already exist.

The quantum computer does exist. And it's functional principles are built on physics not engineering. It's a fundamentally different situation.

If I'd be able to ever collect, I'd bet you $10K in an investment account, that in 10 human generations quantum computers still won't be portable personal devices.

[–] Photonic@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

The artificial computer wasn't so much a scientific breakthrough as a conceptual one. It didn't require anything that didn't already exist.

Neither does this. You just don’t know about it yet. And the link I provided you with shows that.

The quantum computer does exist. And it's functional principles are built on physics not engineering. It's a fundamentally different situation.

Not true. Electrical currents are physics too. And quantum computers have hardware too.

in 10 human generations quantum computers still won't be portable personal devices.

What are your arguments for this? I’ve shown you that your central argument is already being addressed.

[–] Steve@communick.news 1 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Neither does this. You just don’t know about it yet.

What exactly is this, that I don't know about?
And how does Moore's Law apply?

I'm not sure we're talking about the same thing.

[–] Photonic@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago

“This” as in a quantum computer, the thing we were discussing. And the physics and engineering is something you don’t know about. For example, you didn’t know about nitrogen vacancy centers that are already theorised to make room-temperature quantum computing possible. On top of that there are many breakthroughs yet to be made that even current experts may not yet know about.

Moore’s law applies to predictions, which is the other thing we were discussing. Moore’s law was indeed an accurate prediction up until recently, but only after the breakthrough was made, like I also mentioned in my previous comment. I never said it applied to quantum computers.

But it seems to me that you’re just going on a hunch. I’ve tried to apply logic, reasoning and sources to no avail, so I think I will just leave it at that.