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[–] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (3 children)

This is what happens when a company has no diversity. Most companies dogfood their own production. Reminds me of Google's gorilla situation...

[–] Kaboom@reddthat.com 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Toyota is literally Japanese

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

Nikon is too

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That’s what I was thinking. How did this slip by? If I recall correctly, Toyota is better than average when it comes to quality control. This is Boeing-level laziness/incompetence.

[–] Kaboom@reddthat.com -2 points 2 years ago

Probably they knew of the issue, but didnt figure a solution before the deadline.

[–] Hubi@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

This happens even on newer Toyotas, so it's not exactly company-specific. The issue is the biased training data used for the face recognition system.

[–] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

This seems more like an excuse. All these companies aren't using the same training data.

They literally never tested this on an asian person before selling in the vehicle...

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Toyota is a japanese manufacturer. Likely they localize the feature and the localized version has the problem. Its completely possible they all contract the same software vendors in the US for certification reasons, resulting in similar problems.

[–] systemglitch@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Your claim is a Japanese company never tested on Asian people? Would you place a bet on those odds?

[–] zaph@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

Toyota in the US is more American than most American car companies. The tech being different isn't that big of a stretch.

[–] Kaboom@reddthat.com -2 points 2 years ago

Or potentially it did, found the issue, and werent able to solve before the deadline

[–] kadotux@sopuli.xyz 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Google's gorilla situation?

[–] mavu@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

My car keeps screaming at me to keep my hands on the wheel, WHILE I'M FUCKING HOLDING IT.

[–] hessenjunge@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Your car (Tesla?) has no sensors on the wheel that can detect your hands. That’s why you need to jerk the wheel every couple of seconds.

[–] mavu@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

God no. It's a Peugeot, and light hands on black wheel. But the other comment says it has no sensors, except the ones that detect movement of the wheel. so apparently i just have to jerk the wheel randomly, like a BMW driver and it will stop yelling at me.

[–] hessenjunge@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 2 years ago

Exactly, other cars do have ‘hand-detection-sensors’ so you on my have to touch the wheel. I would assume current BMWs should have it.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You'd think they'd have learned from all the cameras that can't see black people....

This is racist as shit.

It's actually probably not racist as shit.

I'm white with larger eyes. My car tells me the same thing. Constantly.

Yes I understand that facial recognition software is usually racist as shit, but this particular situation may just be shitty software rather than racist shitty software.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 1 points 2 years ago

Can people see why "DEI" programs are genuinely good things yet?

[–] rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Classic case of OWPITTS (only white people in the training set).

[–] Death_Equity@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I am guessing the car wasn't made by Subaru or Nissan and is from Ford, GMC, Tesla, BMW, or Mercedes.

[–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Asian women are more beautiful. That's my professional opinion. I'm sure I'd think the same about the men if I was into that.

[–] MeanPresentation80@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

WTF u mean « my professional opinion »

[–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I was paid for that opinion.