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[–] No1@aussie.zone 5 points 15 hours ago

I could have a sensible small to mid sized EV car.

Or get a jacked up monster truck and be rolling coal everywhere.

/s

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah if I had a charging station anywhere near my apartment building.

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 12 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

This has been in the back of my mind ever since I last rented an apartment. Short of dangling an extension cord off your balcony, there's not much that can be done here. You might luck out and get a job somewhere that has charging stations, but that's a big "if".

This also generates a deep concern in my mind for poor folks that can only afford to rent. As they say, "it's expensive to be poor" and having little alternative but to drive gas-burning cars to/from work is only going to crunch budgets harder as time goes on.

Meanwhile, we can't count on landlords to install these things. My last one was the sort that couldn't be bothered to hire painters that understood what masking tape was; moving day was half spent picking paint out of light switches and electrical sockets.

[–] blady_blah@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago

That's the perfect place for government regulation. Start a tiered approach where larger apartment complexes have to electrify a certain percentage of there parking spaces. Every year make the size of the apartment building that has to do this shrink and increase the percentage of parking spaces that require electrification. Also make it a requirement that these electrified spots can't be more than x dollars per kilowatt hour or have them tied to the owner's electrical usage.

There are a lot of ways you can do this, but this is really something that needs to be done through the government for it to happen for low-cost apartments.

[–] magnue@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Free charging at work for me so it's just a no brainer. I also just do lots of 10-15min trips which destroys ICE cars.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (9 children)

And yet American automobile companies are dinosaurs who want to kill EVs.

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[–] PlantJam@lemmy.world 39 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Cost savings just when looking at fuel costs, but if you add in the lack of routine maintenance and moving parts that can wear out, the cost savings multiply. There's the big ticket high voltage battery, but typically that's a matter of reduced capacity rather than a complete failure.

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 8 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

if you add in the lack of routine maintenance and moving parts that can wear out, the cost savings multiply.

Time. There's a "time not spent dicking around with dealerships/mechanics" component here too. This is the reason why I bought an EV a few years go. I got fed up with the gas engine maintenance ecosystem and paid my way out. I was literally buying time.

[–] CCMan1701A@startrek.website 2 points 12 hours ago

This is why i didn't even want a hybrid for my next car. I'm tired of changing the oil and still refuse to pay someone to do it. I just didn't want to have 2 cars and i didn't see myself making trips is about with and ev unless the infrastructure for charging is as easy as spotting a gas station.

[–] PlantJam@lemmy.world 6 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Absolutely. I didn't even consider this when I bought my EV. After about six months I had to look up the suggested service schedule to make sure I wasn't missing anything.

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago

Exactly. First scheduled service with my EV was a joke; it amounted to a minor recall and a tire rotation. I was using regenerative breaking so much, they said that the factory brakes didn't even look worn. The service manager actually looked surprised by this.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca -3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Tesla motors don't last as long as they should, and various solenoids and computers fail at a very high rate.

[–] PlantJam@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago

I don't know about tesla motors, but my car hasn't had any issues and it's a 2017. I also haven't heard of "solenoids and computers" that fail at a very high rate. My experience has been that it's the most reliable car I've owned. The lack of routine maintenance also lets you buy a used car without having to trust that the previous owner took good care of it.

[–] dudleyflippendoodle@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Not only that but certain models use modular battery packs, so you can replace individual cells when they wear out rather than the whole battery.

So instead of having to spend somewhere around $20k, you may only need to pay $3-4k to replace a worn cell which is closer in cost to a hybrid battery replacement.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Not Tesla. The battery pack is frame integrated. GReEn rEvOlUtIoN

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

I think that only applies to some Model Y cars and all of ...🤮Cybertruck.

[–] dudleyflippendoodle@lemmy.zip 1 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Oh ok then, guess I was wrong about them using modular batteries.

[–] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)
[–] dudleyflippendoodle@lemmy.zip 2 points 21 hours ago

Tesla Ford and VW are the ones I’m aware of, but I’m sure there are others.

[–] madkins@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Love my EV. For my use case, it's great. A couple things to watch out for that factor into cost calculations : Home charging is almost a requirement. Fast charging is almost as expensive as gas (probably because they've dialed it in to be so), slow charging is, well, slow. You really have to plan around slow charging.

I just had to renew my tag and my other vehicles were $21. My EV was $255. The logic is, since EVs are paying for tax on fuel to go towards road works, they have to make up for it elsewhere. I'm fine with this, but I don't drive a lot in a year and $255 is way more than the tax I would have spent for gas. Also, I'm pretty sure gas tax has been suspended in my state. So I'm subsidizing the cost for ICE vehicles. Check your state for rules.

Lastly, (and this may be more impactful for my EV which is kinda performance biased) driving Interstate miles eats up your range a lot more. I used to put the cruise control on 75 MPH pretty much all the time. I've found 65-67 is about the break even point to get the miles I should.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

The real horseshit about the fuel tax thing is that that gas tax gets suspended all the fucking time, but do I get a break on my road tax too? Hah ha, no, fuck you says the Republicans who implement the fuel type fee and then suspended the gas tax.

[–] scytale@piefed.zip 26 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Great, now can we make them more affordable please?

[–] green_goglin@thelemmy.club 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Certified Pre-Owned (cars returned to dealership when leases expire) 2/3 yr old models can be had 40-55% off MSRP with 10-20k miles on them.

[–] Anivia@feddit.org 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Keep in mind no one pays msrp for a new vehicle, there is always a hefty discount unless it's a very high demand model. I've never paid more than 80% of the list price for a new car

[–] green_goglin@thelemmy.club 1 points 2 hours ago

Yes, however, this is still the way to pursue an EV at present post-federal incentive(s) lapsing.

The EV depreciation table is set to begin normalizing for 2026 VINs but this issue can work to your advantage in finding a CPO deal. Also, leasing now will most likely create a backwardization scenario similar to ICO leases during Covid.

Meh. I'll easily settle for better public transit, thanks.

[–] cymbal_king@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

The new Slate mini pick up trucks are expected to be in production this year and come in around $20k new. Used EVs already come in under $20k and are good enough for daily commuting in that price range, perhaps not long distance road trips at that price

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[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Not to mention the added convenience of for the most part never having to actively fuel up.

By that I mean, you park at home, plug in a cable, and walk away, you don't actively have to drive to a petrol station and wait a few minutes while fuel is being pumped

[–] ObtuseDoorFrame@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago (13 children)

So, homeowners and luxury apartment renters only. There aren't any EV hookups in the parking lots of any of the affordable apartments in my city.

I am not saying EV's aren't important, I'm saying that there are huge economic barriers between the people who would benefit the most from EV's and actually owning one.

Hopefully the next political cycle will subsidize charging stations like the Biden administration did.

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