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[–] ObtuseDoorFrame@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

So, homeowners and luxury apartment renters only. There aren't any EV hookups in the parking lots of any of the affordable apartments in my city.

I am not saying EV's aren't important, I'm saying that there are huge economic barriers between the people who would benefit the most from EV's and actually owning one.

Hopefully the next political cycle will subsidize charging stations like the Biden administration did.

[–] Zahille7@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

I'm pretty sure there's only one apartment building in my city that has any charging stations. There's one gas station that I know of that's replaced a couple pumps with charging stations too. Other than that, I think there might be just a few businesses that have charging stations, usually car dealerships.

[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Its not as if this is an insurmountable issue though. Apartment parking lots already have electricity running through them. Where my sister lives in the Midwest, lots already have outlets available at each parking spot so that people can plug their block heaters in during the winter.

[–] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

I don’t know the answer to this but, how does the power demands for charging EVs compare to block heaters?

Also, how do EVs deal with the cold up there? Heating the cabin would take a ton of power.

[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 2 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (2 children)

I dont have numbers so take this with a grain of salt, but I would guess they're probably not too far off from one another. With 110V charging, it'll be slow but effective for overnight charging, and resistive heating elements use an insane amount of power especially when they're trying to warm something constantly in -10F weather.

I live in the PNW and dont have to deal with much cold weather but from everything I've read, EVs handle thr cold just fine.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Last winter in Chicago the chargers could not work. Then the range loss is 40-50%. This is better with sodium battery but they are not common yet.

[–] Anivia@feddit.org 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Range loss is not even anywhere close to 40-50% on a heat pump equipped EV. Even at -20°C I still get 75% range from my Ioniq

[–] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago

Yeah, if it wasn't heaters I would be confident that the wattage wouldn't be enough. But it might be fine.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 0 points 19 hours ago

120V will give max 1.5 kwhr, or 30 hours to charge a typical EV.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 0 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

120V outlets would take days to charge a battery.

[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 2 points 12 hours ago

Potentially, but its better than nothing as a supplement and most people don't drive very far very often so it could be enough just charging overnignt.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Most drivers aren't completely draining their battery each day. I know a number of people that only have 120v charging for their EVs. Their cars are home most of the time on weekends which can frequently fill the car for the work week ahead. Then each day the car is partially charged from the 120v so by Friday night they're low on charge, but then they're back charging up more on the weekend. They do occasionally have to high a DC fast charger, but its not often. Maybe once or twice a month for 20 minutes each time.

[–] Soupbreaker@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is not a thing at any apartment complex I've lived in or visited in the south/southeastern US. Also, if you're renting a house that doesn't already have a charger installed, it doesn't make any sense to buy an EV.

Not arguing that it isn't solvable, but for many people, the infrastructure just isn't currently extant, nor is the political will to solve the problem.

[–] TheBenCommandments@infosec.pub 2 points 18 hours ago

If you're renting a house, a lot of people can get away with the standard 110V house plug. I put about 12K miles on mine last year and unless I was on a road trip, then it would charge up at home just fine. Adds about 1.5% per hour and I'm typically not driving it more than that adds back every day.