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[–] IcedRaktajino@startrek.website 243 points 4 days ago (4 children)

The thing with dark matter is it's just a placeholder term for "we don't know what the hell it is", and aren't most hypotheses pulled out of the ass before experimentation to prove them?

Plus, Dr. Kaku is a string theorist so wacky is pretty much par for the course in that field. Granted, I consider him more of a TV personality these days and grew up watching him as a speaker on [insert any number of Discovery Channel shows here].

Maybe I'm just biased and enjoy the wacky theories because I'm more interested in seeing them proven right or wrong and thinking about the implications if they happen to prove correct.

[–] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 21 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (11 children)

I'm not smart enough to prove my hypothesis, nor am I smart enough to understand any proof that I am wrong, but I'm not entirely 100% convinced that dark matter exists as an attractive phenomenon inside galaxies the way it is often described.

The way I see it, it might as well be a repulsive force between galaxies. This way it could also help explain Dark Energy.

[–] i_love_FFT@jlai.lu 48 points 4 days ago (18 children)

While there may be a part of it being "different gravity", dark matter cannot 100% be explained by modified gravity of any kind.

Why do we know this? Well there are observable galaxies that survived collisions and have been stripped of their dark matter, and the reverse is also true (galaxy-sized dark matter blobs without baryonic matter in it).

I can refer you to this wonderful PBS Spacetime video about it: https://youtu.be/5t0jaE--l0Y

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[–] IcedRaktajino@startrek.website 19 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'm not entirely 100% dark matter exists in galaxies the way often described. ... The way I see it, it might as well be a repulsive force between galaxies opposed to the current understanding of it being am attractive force. Plus, if it were a phenomenon that pushed things apart, it could also explain Dark Energy.

And to me, that's a perfectly valid theory. Like other proposed explanations for dark matter or dark energy or "whatever the hell it is we can detect the effect of but can't identify", it's difficult to test.

That's why I enjoy science. It's like a big puzzle, and sometimes you get halfway done and realize you put it together wrong and have to start over.

[–] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 15 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

I would like to emphasize the first part of my previous comment. As I am a hillbilly occasionally cosplaying as a smart and educated person, I am incapable of exploring my statement further than just making the claim. And for that I must insist on referring to it as an hypothesis, unless someone shows me some math that it could actually work. And I hope anyone showing me said math brings the necessary crayons and puppets to explain it in a manner that I can understand.

[–] IcedRaktajino@startrek.website 11 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I am a hillbilly occasionally cosplaying as a smart and educated person

Same. Which explains why I (twice, lol) incorrectly used the terms "theory" and "hypothesis" interchangeably when those are totally different things in sciences.

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[–] LastYearsIrritant@sopuli.xyz 12 points 4 days ago (5 children)

We know that's not the case because we can see different galaxies with different levels of dark matter.

Dark matter doesn't interact with anything else except by gravity, we don't know why, but we can detect that behavior by seeing the way it clumps together.

We can also see that galaxies that collide with each other have different levels of dark matter than galaxies that haven't recently done so. The dark matter appears to just pass through each other and continue on while the regular matter hits each other and stays generally together in one group.

It's pretty interesting when you work through the details of what we do and don't know.

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[–] Zink@programming.dev 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, I like to think of it this way:

Dark matter is not a theory or even a hypothesis. It is a collection of observations.

Having "matter" in the name is kind of a presumptive thing, like "our observations act like there's too much gravity, and matter creates gravity, and we can't see any extra shit, so..."

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[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 25 points 3 days ago (1 children)
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[–] 58008@lemmy.world 73 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I thought this guy was a legit scientist, but I read his recent book Quantum Supremacy and it was all shit like "with quantum computing, in the future you will be able to solve athlete's foot". Literally everything you can think of is going to be quantummaxxed by cubits, according to him. Need your car serviced but the garage isn't open on Sundays? Quantum computing. Need your mother-in-law to dial down the snarky comments about your new house? QUANTUM COMPUTING. Frequently walk into a room, forget why you went in there, leave, then immediately remember why you went in the second you cross the threshold? MOTHERFUCKING QUANTUM COMPUTING!

I'm sure he is a legit scientist, of course, but as a science communicator and terminal book-hawker, he's no better than Joe Rogan.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 40 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

he's 80. he's just old and losing it and trying to stay relevant.

he is legit and was dope in the 90s/2000s, he has just started losing his mind due to being old.

sort of like trump and tariffs. those were suppose to solve my athlete's foot too.

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[–] CultLeader4Hire@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

A young woman from Washington state university has already proven classical computers can solve just as well as quantum if you give them equal advantages. Everything saying quantum computing is faster is operating on the unspoken principle of having the entire data grid already preloaded and comparing it to classical computers who do not have the entire data grid preloaded but when you give them both the magic preload pill quantum computers aren’t any better than classical

https://www.geekwire.com/2018/uw-grad-student-researching-quantum-computing-proved-classical-computers-better-thought/

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[–] gandalf_der_12te@feddit.org 13 points 3 days ago
[–] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This guy is mostly famous from poor quality history channel scifi bullshit "documentaries".

[–] very_well_lost@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

He's literally just the Ancient Aliens guy but with a PhD

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 37 points 4 days ago (15 children)

parallel dimension

Aren't dimensions by definition orthogonal?

[–] cmhe@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

That is true for space dimensions, but there is also a time dimension, and would another dimension, that is 'orthogonal' to a time dimension not be some kind of dimension that offers alternative time lines?

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[–] texture@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

the moment i see this guy appear on screen i know ive fucked up

[–] HrabiaVulpes@europe.pub 14 points 3 days ago (2 children)

To be fair, this is the level of physics where if they discover things right out of fantasy book (teleportation, mind reading, transmutation etc) I wouldn't be even surprised.

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[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 36 points 4 days ago

Interesting but i suggest it might be normal matter that had a bad childhood experience and turned evil. We can save it tho

[–] addie@feddit.uk 27 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Scientific method and all that. Any conjecture is okay.

Now, what's the hypothesis that you can make out of it? We've plenty of observations that don't match theory, which we believe to be on account of dark matter - galaxy rotation speeds, what happens in the core of a type 2 supernova, and so on. Does this hypothesis explain those problems better than what we have?

If it does, keep it. If it doesn't, discard it. Repeat, until we've solved all the mysteries of the universe by banging our heads against them.

This strikes me as the kind of conjecture that has no predictive power, and therefore must be discarded, but I'm no PhD-level theoretical physicist.

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[–] OrganicMustard@lemmy.world 22 points 4 days ago (1 children)

What he's probably saying is not that far out.

Dark matter was proposed initially because at galaxy scales the gravity force doesn't seem to match the one created by the visible matter in that galaxy, while others tried to propose modified laws of gravity at that scale. He is probably defending the later via compactified dimensions, so at some scales gravity stops transmitting at one over the distance squared, as those extra dimensions start to make an effect somehow.

[–] OrganicMustard@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)

In case someone thinks I'm saying something crazy imagine a universe that is an infinite straw. When you zoom a lot in the surface you see two flat dimensions, so gravity would propagate at one over the distance. When you zoom out you stop seeing the dimension that loops over itself and only see one, so gravity gets constant at that scale.

You could get the same with a lot more complex manifolds, that look like 3+1 dimensions at some scales.

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[–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 25 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I see nothing wrong with suggesting that, so long as it is made clear he is discussing one of many theoretical possibilities.

Is he a kook? He does kinda look like one, but so do a lot of legit scientists, so that's not a good measure.

[–] CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world 30 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (5 children)

Not a kook. Legit scientist. He has a PhD in theoretical physics, not a theoretical PhD in physics. While he spends a lot of time as a science communicator, he has his bona fides.

Yes, it's all just theories and intuition like all nascent science.

[–] Brummbaer@pawb.social 15 points 4 days ago (6 children)

A PhD is not a "get out of Jail" card for kookery.

He is definitely part of the "woo" people in his field.

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[–] Washedupcynic@lemmy.ca 14 points 4 days ago (4 children)

What if dark matter is a time artifact of gravitational waves over time/space as particles with mass travel through time/space? (I am not a physicist and I don't understand jack shit.)

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago

don't talk about my mom like that.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

how can time be real if we don't even know how magnets work?

and how can magnets the whole thing if our eyes aren't real?

while we're at it, if our eyes aren't real how can we dream that you, um, you had, your, you- you could, you’ll do, you- you wants, you, you could do so, you- you’ll do, you could- you, you want, you want him to do you so much you could do anything?

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[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

Yeah, this guy is so full of shit.

Edit: Whoever doesn't like it, go watch his discussion with Roger Penrose, etc. He's so obviously out of his depth when he's not talking about speculative pop science bullshit.

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[–] Tiger_Man_@szmer.info 3 points 3 days ago

quick, get the xkcd

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago (2 children)

What's a parallel dimension?

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

He maybe means a parallel universe. Or a higher order dimension like in string theory. This guy is a string theorist so probably the latter.

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[–] Zacryon@feddit.org 5 points 3 days ago

If you can place a dimension that is orthogonal between two dimensions, then those two dimensions are parallel. /j

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