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[–] popekingjoe@lemmy.world 93 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Like, no shit the plagiarism machine that cannot create anything truly novel and can only regurgitate other people's already existing work can't replace professionals. I legitimately hope all of these companies go under.

[–] Fishnoodle@lemmy.world 55 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Oh, and now you need a new fucking degree to learn how to 'optimize your token usage with well crafted prompts the machine can understand' otherwise you'll burn through the energy Cleveland uses in a year, and end up costing the company millions.

Dumbest fucking bubble so far other than tulips and beanie babies

[–] db2@lemmy.world 45 points 6 days ago

No it's dumber. Beanie babies at least left you with a little doll kids could enjoy.

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 19 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Oh, and now you need a new fucking degree to learn how to ‘optimize your token usage

In some companies, 'optimize your token usage' means using as many tokens as possible.

[–] NekoKoneko@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Indeed.

"AI is good" became "Good employees use AI" became "The more AI the better" became "The more tokens used the better the employee."

What's incredible is that none of these are self-evidently true premises, but rich C-suite aliens managed to buy into the entire illogical chain.

[–] pdxfed@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

but rich C-suite aliens managed to buy into the entire illogical chain.

When many decision-makers are incentivized to only care about their next quarterly bonus or stock grant, just like the subprime crisis, people will absolutely set their company up to fail regardless of the consequences. Companies have trained people they are disposable so why would they act in the long term interest of the company? Economics, that is, incentives, are undefeated in making people do things. It may not be what someone intends, but being naive about economics is why adults are needed in designing reward systems (from government policy to company programs).

[–] dreamkeeper@literature.cafe 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Yeah part of our performance evaluation at my company now is how much of our code is "made by AI". I said sure buddy, added a code attribution to Claude so all of my code gets marked as AI generated even though I manually edit Claude's subpar output all the time.

As long as I initially generate the code with Claude I can manually change whatever I want and it still somehow marks it all as "AI-generated". It's a stupid ass metric for so many reasons, especially because of how dumb their metric-generating LLM bot is.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Two things.....

  1. Is.....is Cleveland known for high energy usage? I don't get the reference.

  2. Tulips had a bubble? I'm so confused.

[–] badgermurphy@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago

I think he just picked a decently big town as an example, and Dutch tulips were the very first stock craze.

[–] gnutrino@programming.dev 10 points 5 days ago (2 children)
[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Ah, it happened in 1634. That's why I hadn't heard of this. I wasn't born yet for a few more years.

[–] naught101@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago

Damn whipper snappers

[–] morphballganon@mtgzone.com 4 points 5 days ago

Go for the flowers, stay for the etymology of fictional country names

TIL the two countries in The Princess Bride are both named after a Dutch currency

[–] Billygoat@piefed.social 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The area is known for causing the 2003 blackout, but that was really due to the heat that day.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

Oh man! The 2003 blackout was AWESOME!!! I'm from Cleveland, and I thought I caused it. Local time power went out at 3:45pm exactly. I know that because in those days I worked at a regional grocery store, and we used physical plastic time cards that you swipe, and then it beeps and you click the button that says "In" to clock in after it beeps.

Well, I start my shift at 4pm, and I was allowed to clock in 15 minutes early, but not 16 minutes early.

So at 3:44 I'm waiting. And waiting. And then 3:45. Swiiiipe! power dies

What'd I do? Oh fuck.....what did I do? It didn't even beep. I swiped my card, and then everything went black....

These were the days when your phone didn't have a flashlight, but the nokia phones of those days were bright enough you could kinda use the screen itself as a source of light.

So once I made my way out of the office, I realized the whole BUILDING had no power. Now I was less sure I caused it. I thought one breaker had somehow gotten tripped, but that would just be a small portion of the building.

Then a coworker came running in, and said the whole block was out. So now I knew I had nothing to do with it. We turned on the radio, as we waited to figure out what to do. The music got interupted a half hour later saying the whole city was out. Within another hour we found out it was half the country.

So we got sent home before it turned dark. And thats when the day got fun. We sat on the sidewalk with lanterns and candles at our apartment building. We then watched in pitch black as a single headlight came flying around the corner real fast. A motorcycle that was then followed by about 3 cop cars chasing him. We're all drunk on the sidewalk, sitting on folding chairs. We see the motorcycle go flipping and there is no way for me to describe the weird light show we saw. It lasted forever, and also onlu about 2 seconds. We had no idea what it was.

Turns out the motorcycle hit a curb at 70mph in the dark, went airborn and was flipping through the air, before crashing through the window of a house.

It took police 90 minutes to find the rider. Because they thought he ran on foot. Turns out he hit the wall above the window, died on impact, and his body fell to the ground behind a bush.

But we were all laughing not knowing he was dead. We were just imagining being inside that house, in candle light, before randomly a motorcycle crashes into your front window.

We just thought he did a magic trick, and vanished. Suddenly cops were descending on our block, with ambulances, and for some reason a fire truck. So we took that as our cue to go inside and smoke weed, and have sex all night.

Next day is when we found out what we saw. We didn't know he had died. We eventually had figured out the light show was the motorcycle flipping end over end.

[–] Rothe@piefed.social 8 points 5 days ago

And that all the vibecoding they do instead will eventually turn their whole product into an unmanageable mess which cannot be salvaged.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 2 points 5 days ago

They will, but they'll take you with them

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[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 27 points 5 days ago

I hate the notion of "laying off people to generate returns" so fucking much.

[–] Verdorrterpunkt@feddit.org 32 points 5 days ago

I think replacing my boss might be possible. The error and hallucination quota seems similar.

[–] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 33 points 5 days ago

While very different in some ways, some parallels between the AI-driven layoffs and the offshore outsourcing layoffs of the mid-2000s are striking.

Ultimately both scenarios were/are driven by corporate greed. And it looks like the AI one is backfiring for many of the same reasons as the offshore one.

They are replacing experienced staff who have strong critical thinking abilities and hands-on knowledge, and the replacements lack the institutional knowledge and the ability to look at the big picture, and they substitute speed for methodological discernment.

Time is cyclical.

[–] trackball_fetish@lemmy.wtf 17 points 5 days ago

Wow you don't say. It's almost like jumping to firing the intelligent people who keep your business afloat at the mere idea that you could stuff a few more unnecessary dollars into your pocket without verifying the function of the "replacement" technology wasn't the best idea was it? Personally I'm not even mad about the money. I'm pissed at the tech industry's nonstop effort of attempting to discredit our work. I truly get why scientists get fed up and leave the country.

Get fucked, continuously.

[–] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 19 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Shocker. Just another excuse to fire higher paid workers, point at a line going up (until it doesn't), say AI a lot, and then hire lower paid workers for the same (or worse now fighting AI in some cases) job.

[–] Test_Tickles@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

This is the real answer. AI is just an excuse to cut costs while the economy is going to shit. By claiming it is all about AI, they get to cut and slash all they want without signaling to the stock market and their competitors that things are going to shit. It also allows them to cut without blaming the economy because pointing out the failing economy would upset the man-baby that is fucking up the entire world economy.

The Csuites that will lose their jobs from this will actually get bonuses when they are fired. We will see some of them get fired for this reason. But If the whole thing truly imploded none of them will get fired though because it will be too costly to pull the chord on their golden parachutes.

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Maybe we shoild all rush into doing things we dont undrrstand

The big shots try to hold it back.
Fools try to wish it away.
The hopeful depend on a world without end.
Whatever the hopeless may say.

Once politicians start to decry it, it's too late.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 16 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

"Yeah, lets't get rid of the knowledge of how our stuff actually works and replace it with a statistics fueled computer, woo, AI all the way!"


This is what pisses me off the most, the willful disregard for knowledge and skills in organizations.

If you don't have the knowledge or skills, specific to your oranizations needs, then you can't evaluate if the AI is doing a good job.

[–] Flower@sh.itjust.works 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

If every company is using the same few AIs, they're basically the same company. Everything unique about them will deteriorate until it's just corporate grey goo.

[–] naught101@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

I mean... That's not really saying much will change in the majority of cases?

[–] Rothe@piefed.social 5 points 5 days ago

The companies deserves to crash and burn when they finally figure out that the AI did in fact not do such a good job after all, and there will be noone around able to fix it.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

No higher ROI AND they now have a mission critical dependency on a powerful third party (rather than on the far more fragmented and generally weaker counterparties which are employees).

Even on pure business terms and not even considering the longer term accumulation of problems and hence fall in returns over time due to second order problems of using AI in certain areas (i.e. the consequences of the much higher high-severity-error rates of AI compared to even barelly trained humans or the inability of AI to learn and improve) it's a seriously incompetent choice.

I mean, you can excuse a Manager for not understanding the higher level structural problems of AI given how much the messaging around it for non-techies so far has just swamped people with "butterflies and rainbows" views on AI, but considering the risks of dependencies on third parties is a central skill for any decent Upper level manager as is looking at what an investment is returning and pivoting when it's not delivering.

[–] lokalhorst@feddit.org 11 points 5 days ago

Agentic AI. I always cringe a little when I hear that term.

[–] Iconoclast@feddit.uk 10 points 5 days ago (3 children)

I feel like a variation of this exact article gets posted here every single day for the past year or so, and every time the same comments show up underneath. Nobody ever opens one of these threads and discovers a surprising or novel point of view.

I don't understand why people spend their whole day talking about something they don't like. It's so bizarre to me.

[–] Photonic@lemmy.world 17 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Well it’s not just that people don’t like it, there are a lot of people whose jobs are on the line because of it.

So I guess it’s kind of hard for them not to keep talking about the thing that’s threatening their livelihood, which makes sense.

And of course they want to see news that tells them it isn’t going to be so bad and that their expertise will still be in demand.

[–] bluGill@fedia.io -3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I disagree - people's jobs are not on the line because of AI. They are on the line because of the economy and AI is the excuse/fad of the year so AI is what is blamed. However I maintain it is the economy not AI at fault.

[–] Photonic@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yes. But if it wasn’t for this particular fad their jobs would not have been on the line because there would be no alternative for their employers.

And of course it is not AI that is doing this. AI, can’t feel, think or do anything. It is simply another tool. Just like production robots have replaced automotive factory personnel on a large scale. And you couldn’t blame the people who lost their job for hating the machines that replaced them. It may not be rational, but it is understandable.

And of course if we are going to try to rationalise things, it is also not because of the economy. It is the people who benefit from replacing people with AI: the CEOs, employers and shareholders who care more about the companies’ profits than the human beings they employ. The people who have dehumanised their employees so much that in their minds, they are simply a tool to be used and discarded without any regard for the lives they are destroying. The reason why these people are the way they are and act the way they do has many factors that are way too complicated for any employee who is about to lose their job to an AI to understand.

[–] bluGill@fedia.io 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

But if it wasn’t for this particular fad their jobs would not have been on the line because there would be no alternative for their employers.

There have been many layoffs over the years. Laying people off because the economy isn't good is nothing new, and AI did nothing to make it more or less possible.

If the economy was really good AI would have been used not to replace people but to make them more productive thus earning the company even more money.

[–] Photonic@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

Machines also kept replacing car factory workers even when the economy was thriving, so that’s not it.

I’m pretty sure it’s human greed.

[–] Damaskox@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

I don't understand why people spend their whole day talking about something they don't like. It's so bizarre to me.

Of course spending a full day on it is a different story, but I think it's important to discuss things you don't like, from time to time, and with different people. It can lead to new thoughts and solutions, as an example.
Well, if you do it constructively.

[–] oopsgodisdeadmybad@lemmy.zip 7 points 5 days ago

If your company uses AI (in the colloquial LLM sense), it deserves to go bankrupt.

No ifs, ands, or buts.

Period.

If it uses it as a core pillar of their business, the owners deserve to empty their entire life earnings to the employees in perpetuity and they shouldn't ever own anything better than a cardboard box home.

We need to make using this absolutely painful for owners.

For people like Altman, it should be death row worthy.

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 6 points 5 days ago (3 children)

If you lay off all the humans so AI can be cheap labour for corporations then there are only three alternatives.

  • provide humans with a universal basic income and living wage.
  • kill them all.
  • let them loose and let them wander (more addicitons, more theft, more homelessness, more violence).
[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 8 points 5 days ago

you also end up with AI buying AI from AI as there are no humans to generate or recieve the AI output.

[–] discocactus@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

🤔🧐😈

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Or you can start a land war in asia. Talked to a 44 year old on the train who's basically living at a shelter. He would join the army if they would take him....

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 8 points 6 days ago

CEOs are getting their pockets filled so, yeah, I think its exactly the way companies think.

I work in the food industry in a somewhat big company in Italy. In all the productive process, we have found exactly 1 (one) application for an AI. And I'm not talking about an LLM, but about the good ol' machine learning: It's a system that checks the labels of the product to see if they are good or not. It needed training but now it can check if the labels are fit for the market faster than a person. That's it. That's the single part of the whole process in which an AI has removed a person and just because it's a job that a human couldn't do it fast enough anyway.

For the rest? The higher ups realized that there's always the need of human intervention because even the simpler work requires of a decision making that a machine simply can't do.

We also have nopilot for the computers but only because it comes with the office package that the company pays. Nobody actually uses it other than to ask it stupid things.

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