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[–] TheLazyNerd@europe.pub 9 points 3 hours ago

There was a similar case of a woman who absorbed her twin brother in the womb. Only a small patch of cheek had her brothers DNA, but that is exactly where DNA is taken from when they want to take a DNA sample. This was discovered when she took a DNA test which came up as male.

[–] MCTamTam@feddit.org 8 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Notyou@sopuli.xyz 4 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

I think they are saying this dude is so cuck that he is raising his wife and non-existent brothers child.

[–] saimen@feddit.org 9 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Why does this make DNA scary? I think it's awesome that our understanding of DNA makes us able to unravel things like this.

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 10 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Imagine your dead twin using your penis to impregnate your wife with his DNA.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.cafe 1 points 2 hours ago

I would say that he's not really dead, his consciousness has taken shelter in some dark cranny of his mind, and slips out to cause trouble now and then.

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 1 points 5 hours ago

Imagine you are le innocent wife, but your son does not have your father's DNA

[–] JennyLaFae@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 10 hours ago

The last time I did a deep dive on the research, they estimated somewhere around 3% of the population had some form of chimerism, and I calculated my personal chances around 6%. And then I did some family research and anecdotal evidence pushed that number much higher, including being a single born twin.

One of the articles I recall postulated the number is much higher than 3% due to the condition only being confirmed or discovered through rare circumstances that result in multiple genetic testing.

[–] BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world 6 points 8 hours ago (4 children)

How does two genomes work together in one body without immune system going haywire?

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 1 points 30 minutes ago

Being incredibly close, genetically, probably helps a lot. Cancer is just ones own cells that turn into a parasitic mass BUT there’s entire dog STI that’s actually a thousands of years old boneless dog(the dog’s cancer cells) which was likely originally spread through a bunch of domesticated, inbred dogs.

So his immune system’s like “eh, close enough”.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.cafe 1 points 2 hours ago

Let me preface this by saying I don't know shit about shit, leastways medical shit, so this is probably completely stupid:

His immune system developed like this from the beginning, and it know no other way. So it just works.

Or maybe it doesn't. The person could have all sorts of auto-immune stuff going on, they didn't say.

[–] reddit_sux@lemmy.world 6 points 7 hours ago

There might be two reasons why there was no immune response:

  • The immune system responds to protein on cell wall known as Major Histocompatibility Complex. Siblings share many if not all of the important MHC proteins to seem identical to immune system. Maternal twins or identical twins share all of the MHCs. That is one of the reason why there is a high chance of you getting a compatible tissue or organ donation from siblings than parents.
  • Sperms and seminal vessels are essentially outside the immune system just like spinal disc, eye lens, joint cartilages. Immune system doesn't even know they are present.
[–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

I wouldn't be surprised if he had autoimmune disorders his whole life, without knowing why.

[–] rethnor@lemmy.zip 6 points 9 hours ago

This is wild, and and important party of the plot for orphan black.

[–] the_mighty_kracken@lemmy.world 34 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

That means every time that guy has masturbated in his life he was really jerking off his dead brother.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 15 points 12 hours ago

Hey now his brother has never been more alive.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 11 points 14 hours ago

dude: I want a divorce, your honor.

judge: on what grounds?

dude: on account that my wife fucked my dead brother and had a child with him.

judge: is this true?

woman: 1000003843

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 184 points 21 hours ago (5 children)

I think there was a similar case, but about the mother. The courts took her baby and she was on trial for kidnapping.

Eventually a geneticists saw it on the news and suggested she got tested again using DNA samples from other parts of her body and they found out she also was a chimera.

Some racism was involved as she was working class and black, so the courts were just looking for a reason to take her baby and throw her ass in jail..

[–] arschfidel@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Yes, it was the case of Lydia Fairchild

From Wikipedia

Fairchild stood accused of fraud by either claiming benefits for other people's children, or taking part in a surrogacy scam, and records of her prior births were put similarly in doubt. Prosecutors called for her two children to be taken away from her, believing them not to be hers. As time came for her to give birth to her third child, the judge ordered that an observer be present at the birth, ensure that blood samples were immediately taken from both the child and Fairchild, and be available to testify. Two weeks later, DNA tests seemed to indicate that she was also not the mother of that child.

A breakthrough came when her defense attorney,[1] Alan Tindell, learned of Karen Keegan, a chimeric woman in Boston, and suggested a similar possibility for Fairchild and then introduced an article in the New England Journal of Medicine about Keegan.[2][3] He realized that Fairchild's case might also be caused by chimerism. As in Keegan's case, DNA samples were taken from members of the extended family. The DNA of Fairchild's children matched that of Fairchild's mother to the extent expected of a grandmother. They also found that, although the DNA in Fairchild's skin and hair did not match her children's, the DNA from a cervical smear test did match. Fairchild was carrying two different sets of DNA, the defining characteristic of chimerism.

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 88 points 21 hours ago

Some racism was involved

Not surprised after reading the first paragraph

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[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 7 points 13 hours ago

Jerry Springer gonna come out of retirement for this one.

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 182 points 22 hours ago (6 children)

Apparently this is more common with cats. If you see a cat with two different coat patterns, either divided down the middle or along the neck (as if they only had spare parts left at the cat factory), they may also be a chimera.

[–] I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world 144 points 22 hours ago (3 children)
[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 87 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Venus!!! I love Venus. She long predates AI for the curious. She's an ig celeb.

I saw this one too the other day on the other site, I think.

[–] I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world 54 points 21 hours ago

Half scraggle muffin, half had enough of your shit.

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[–] bedwyr@piefed.ca 64 points 20 hours ago (8 children)

There was a woman who went to prison for this, her chimera baby's dna contradicted her story, I think to get public assistance of some kind, and the dna test convinced the state assholes she was lying and they sent her to prison, I think some researchers exonerated her eventually.

[–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 52 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

Are you thinking of Lydia Fairchild? In her case she wasn't sent to prison. However, her two children were taken from her and placed in foster care. Lawyers had refused to represent her at first, due to the belief that DNA evidence is too strong to fight. On the plus side, she became pregnant again. So a court officer was present during her third child's birth.

Despite being at the birth and witnessing blood draws from both mother and child, the court still claimed she was being untruthful somehow. Thankfully, that birth and its evidence were peculiar enough to attract a lawyer to finally represent her. Only after that did the investigation into potential chimerism arise.

More info here - https://embryo.asu.edu/pages/case-lydia-fairchild-and-her-chimerism-2002

[–] bedwyr@piefed.ca 1 points 4 hours ago

Might be I just heard it on a podcast, Poor Historians, Misadventures in Medical History, and I may have gotten the story wrong.

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[–] iThinkDifferentThanU@lemmy.world 123 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Can't even trust a brother you ate in utero

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[–] heavy@sh.itjust.works 29 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

To add that the general understanding of how DNA works and is used can be scary, just like other measurements. I bet there's still a lot of people that believe fingerprint analysis is some kind of rock solid science based evidence, but my understanding is that it's very much prone to errors and interpretation.

I don't mean to say that DNA analysis suffers the same flaws, just trying to illustrate with an example.

[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 19 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (2 children)

I hate the generalized concept of "AI", but I love the concept of "Machine Learning"

If you think LLMs are good at anything, I am almost 100% certain to disagree with you about pretty much everything, to help you understand this distinction.

Anyhow, some computer scientists found that a machine learning algorithm could predict beyond a null hypothesis that A fingerprint belonged to a person given a different fingerprint (different finger but still same person)

"Criminology" expers were just like "no, it's settled science"

This is the state of discourse.

  1. why do I even feel the compulsion to preface by saying my bit about ai and llms?

  2. how tf is "settled science" even a concept in a science

[–] prime_number_314159@lemmy.world 10 points 15 hours ago

I get a similar vibe from psychology. There's a number of "experts" that are out in the field, doing the hard work day after day, putting in those hours... And hopelessly blinded by their own confirmation bias and survivorship bias. Clinical therapists in surveys prove very willing to overlook strong research in support of certain methods because they believe they see results in their clinical work that can't be reproduced in a lab.

Then each field also has a research wing, slowly carving a path towards useful ideas, expending tremendous effort for each new finding, method, and result (even negative results!).

[–] ericwdhs@discuss.online 6 points 14 hours ago

If you think LLMs are good at anything, I am almost 100% certain to disagree with you about pretty much everything, to help you understand this distinction.

Depends on what you mean by "anything." The current obsession in the tech world of trying to shove LLMs into the AGI box? Yeah, not a good fit. Pure language stuff like translation or brainstorming? Very useful. LLMs now even surpass DeepL.

why do I even feel the compulsion to preface by saying my bit about ai and llms?

I have a similar compulsion to clarify that my interest in LLMs centers mainly around local open-source models that can run on consumer hardware.

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[–] snoons@lemmy.ca 74 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

The brothers ghost, after cucking him for revenge:

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[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 57 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (5 children)

Another fun-ish, kinda fucked up, weird story... There's a woman, Henrietta Lacks, who had a biopsy for her cervical cancer in January of 1951 before passing in October of that year. These cells were found to be incredibly resilient and quick to replicate. Most cells only lasted a few days before dying, but hers seemed to be functionally immortal under controlled lab conditions.

So, unbeknownst to her as consent wasnt required for such things at the time, her cancer cells were cultured and grown into large samples to be used in research. Those samples were split off and passed off to other labs. They've since spread around the entire world for a ton of research and commercial purposes.

They were used in the development of the polio vaccine, for example, as well as having been used in research on cancer (obviously), AIDS, the effects of radiation and toxic materials, gene mapping, etc. They are used to test safety of cosmetics as well. Approximately 11,000 patents involve these specific cancer cells.

In the 1970s, there was an incident where these cells contaminated other cell cultures, so the researchers needed DNA samples from the Henrietta's family to differentiate her cells from the others. This is the first time anyone in her family learned that her cells had been used in research at all, let alone that her cells were being cloned and used in research and commercial product development across the entire world. It became a legal issue after this, and after a couple decades of litigation, it made it to the Supreme Court of California where they ruled that "discarded biological materials" is no longer ones property and could be commercialized freely. They continue to occasionally fight against aspects of her cells' usage, and there are health privacy concerns for her family as well, but results have been mixed for them.

Henrietta the person died in 1951 at age 31, but her immortal cancer cells which still contain her full DNA sequence continue to live to this day, 75 years later. One source claims that as much as 50 million metric tons of tissue has been generated from these cells.

[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 28 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

HeLa is extremely interesting, but still requires humans to cultivate her cells.

Canine transmissible venereal tumor however, is an immortal, contagious dog tumor from a dog thousands of years ago that evolved into its own lifeform - a sexually transmitted parasitic cancer - that has continued to this day to spread from host to host. Yet, genetically, it is still "dog".

Anyway, this is my answer when the job interviewer asks me about long-term goals.

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