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[–] schwim@piefed.zip 160 points 5 days ago (5 children)

I absolutely love that the tyrannical bullying by the US is going to result in a globally-visible solar win.

That being said, now I worry that this administration will simply bomb them from existence to keep it from happening.

[–] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 34 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It's like they're trying to crush a bar of soap that just keeps slipping away.

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 22 points 5 days ago (2 children)

"The more you tighten your grip, the more [countries] will slip through your fingers."

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[–] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 10 points 5 days ago

There is a dangerous hope of the US admin being just such a fucking heel that the world is forced to be on the side of good in just pure desperation and opposition.

They are killing real people though and we do have to stop them still. The silver lining of mushroom bomb cloud can provide some comfort but if we see it we have still failed.

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[–] zeroConnection@programming.dev 34 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Funny how the anti-green energy USA is expediting the adoption of renewables around the world due to their moronic laws, policies and wars.

Can't wait to see them left behind in the past with all that oil they can't get enough of, when nobody will need it anymore in the rest of the world.

[–] ThePyroPython@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Both heavy and light oil will still be needed for other processes and products that can't be replaced/way more difficult to replace than fuels. But decoupling oil from energy and transportation will have a huge impact on the market and be better for everyone in general.

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[–] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 50 points 5 days ago (16 children)

Okay so let me go over this again as I have an idea...

Nation that's struggling with dependency on petroleum and unreliable supply chain turns to renewable energy. The solar energy is clean, reliable, requires little maintenance, and is helping that country become less reliant on foreign petroleum.

If that works for Cuba, a tiny nation with few resources, perhaps it would work in other more wealthy nations also. Perhaps if a nation were, say, reliant on petroleum to the point that they start multiple multinational wars to ensure their own access to oil, costing literally $trillions, it might be cheaper to put some or all of that money into renewable energy. Presumably China will sell their solar panels to whoever's buying, yes? So why wouldn't a larger, more developed country purchase them in great quantity so spending $trillions on military actions in the Middle East would no longer be necessary?
If a country like this has some of their own domestic oil production, wouldn't it be a desirable future to just walk away from the Middle East entirely, let the oil assholes kill each other without our involvement, and run the country for a few decades on sunshine? Use that money to buy solar panels literally by the boatload / container-ship-load (or buy the tech and manufacture them ourselves), and then national security is improved through removing foreign dependencies?

Or is this just crazy talk?

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 30 points 5 days ago (3 children)

It's infuriating how successful the oil companies have been at turning solar vs oil into a fucking culture war.

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[–] Leather@lemmy.world 19 points 5 days ago (19 children)

Have you even said thank you to the oil companies?!

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[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 17 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Not crazy talk, Australia currently leads with the highest per-capita uptake of solar panels and it’s having a noticeable impact on our overall energy costs:

https://www.abs.gov.au/articles/household-solar-electricity-generation-australian-national-accounts

We actually produce so much excess solar during peak times that households without panels can opt for electricity plans which offer free electricity between midday and 3pm every day (inc. weekends).

We’re also rolling out a heap of household batteries to better help take advantage of this surplus production and offset peak demand times too.

The world is rapidly approaching a post-fossil fuel world; the transition will be slow at first, and then drastic all of a sudden.

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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Now, just take that analysis a little bit further by adding the consideration that those elected to manage the nation aren't actually doing that and wondering why.

I bet it will yield interesting results about whose interests such people really serve.

[–] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 8 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Wait, you're saying my Congresscritter who only shows up every few years to demand my vote (because it's ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL THIS YEAR that we defeat the other party) isn't actually laser-focused on my needs as a citizen?

That seems unpossible.

:P

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[–] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 14 points 5 days ago

Or said country simply likes killing people around the world and oil is a convenient excuse.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.cafe 9 points 5 days ago (8 children)

OR, we could build those solar panels right here in America, and not only relieve the pressure on oil reserves, but kick off a new big American industry, backed by a national energy initiative, backed by tax incentives. There would be lots of new small businesses around the country selling and installing solar, creating thousands of new jobs.

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[–] criscodisco@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago

Yes but what about the oil companies’ profits? Have you even considered their feelings?

[–] CaptainSpaceman@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago (2 children)

The US govt has a responsibility to keep the PetroDollar in tact since Nixon killed the gold standard, otherwise the global dependency on USD is no longer maintained and other currencies have a chance to replace it.

This is currently happening, ofc, with ships crossing Hormuz by paying Yuan instead of Dollars.

Now that UAE has shown other countries how to leave OPEC, USD (read: everyday Americans) might be royallyfucked but at least USA might be able to move away from microplastics and pollution.

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[–] Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago (8 children)

All oil lobbiests, oil barons, and dipshit right-wingers whose primary source of info is focks nooz, blowroganexperience, and other propaganda outlets: it'd take 30 years to get the infrastructure in place for rEnEwAbLeS!

So what you're saying is if we started during the oil crisis of the 70s, we'd be celebrating 25 years off our dependency on petroleum? If we started at the turn of the millennium we'd already be in the home-stretch toward completion?

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[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 66 points 5 days ago (4 children)

At what point will the USA admit their embargo was and is a huge fuck-up and an embarrassment? It's become a symbol of how full of crap we are. Has it been fifty years of this?

p.s. I looked it up because I'm dumb, it's been SIXTY-SIX YEARS. It's even older than me.

All the USA had to do for a fantastic ally by now is stop being an asshole. We could at least return the illegally seized Guantanamo Bay, which is kept just to insult them, really.

[–] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 20 points 5 days ago

But where will commit torture in legal ambuity if don't have a site off the coast on a land that isn't us jurisdiction but also not the jurisdiction of a country we recognize validty of their human rights laws?

Like it's a really special plot of land if are really trying to specialize in human rights abuse in internationally and domestically legally dubius ways.

All that say, honest wtf is wrong with some of these people

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[–] BigMacHole@thelemmy.club 27 points 4 days ago (1 children)

We NEED to Cumpete with CHYNA! Which is Why we're doing EVERYTHING to Force OTHER COUNTRIES to do Bizness with CHYNA!

-Republicans!

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 9 points 4 days ago

I don't believe they are just evil, I believe they are actually fucking stupid as well, and short-sighted.

It's the lead.

[–] Miller@lemmy.world 95 points 5 days ago (5 children)

Poor US always on the wrong side recently, and with such good intentions too.

[–] toiletobserver@lemmy.world 67 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Bwahaha... Good intentions, that's rich

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[–] Zier@fedia.io 65 points 5 days ago (10 children)

Putin & Trump will be sited as being responsible for the push, by the World, for more solar and electric energies. These oil dinosaurs are forcing people to choose green alternatives just to exist. Which is exactly what they both never wanted. hahahahaha

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 19 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

meanwhile leaving their own countries lagging behind. "America First" lol.

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 57 points 5 days ago (4 children)

So that "drill baby drill" didn't just backfire, it backfired spectacularly yo the point where I'm thinking that we still might have a chance to stop climate change. Thanks Cheetos!

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 19 points 5 days ago

Cuba was already on track to build solar farms back in 2023, with planned completion by 2025.

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[–] sepi@piefed.social 31 points 5 days ago (2 children)

So they went full solarpunk?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 43 points 5 days ago

Cuba in Ten Years

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[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 days ago

As predicted, US will squash green efforts, and desperately cling to oil.

The oil we take will then become close to valueless as the rest of the world grows out of their reliance on it

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 4 days ago

It's often best the short and sharp pain of pulling out a tooth than the lesser but chronical pain (and possible nasty eventual consequences) of a rotting tooth.

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 10 points 4 days ago

I hope Canada is helping too. We Canadians have vacationed lots and lots over there in past years.

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 20 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

The evil commies win again. Thanks Obama, you're still ruining America years later.

[–] ThatGiantCameron@lemmy.world 16 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Seems like China recognized a pattern about nations that invest heavily in the poorer parts of the world.

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[–] MithranArkanere@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

After seeing the solar roofs in Aleppo, I think all cities should be like that.

Silver linings.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 18 points 5 days ago (1 children)

not the first time for this kind of thing. they have had a lot of things like organic farming to.

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