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Nobody bothers to select a Language when submitting content, so undetermined is like a catch all and is the default selected one everywhere.
Afaik Lemmy v1.0.0 will have plugin support and one of the already example plugins is an automatic language detector for content. So maybe someday you might be able to use the language filter and still get the content you like.
In my case, I always do it from the web client but I have no idea how to set the language with Jerboa or Voyager, so my mobile comments don't have a language set
Sent from Jerboa
(sometimes I do go back on the web client to set the language on my posts when I'm back on the web client, though)
Dunno what client you're using, but yeah. When using Thunder, it for some reason frequently switches to "Undetermined" whenever I edit a comment. When I try to submit that edit with that language choice, I get a "language not allowed" error & have to change it to "no language" to get it to work. Kinda bizarre.
I'd have switched to Voyager by now if it didn't have the incredibly annoying fault whereby if you accidentally open the left panel that lets you choose your feed or a specific community, then you cannot just close it again - you are FORCED to make a selection that then reloads your feed & you lose your place in what you were scrolling through already. I've complained about it, but they don't seem to care.
Have you tried either Summit or Blorp?
Summit is my favourite pick, but Blorp is fantastic and was that for Lemmy for quite a while before switching. Summit feels a bit more modern and clean to me.
Reading this comment makes me feel like I tuned into inter-dimensional cable
Tried Blorp a while back, but didn't like it - don't remember why. Will try Summit - thx for the recommendation!
Blorp dev here! Constantly trying to improve things. If you do happen to give Blorp a 2nd shot, let me know what you think could be improved. Otherwise, there are lots of great clients out there!
The point is that there is a choice of languages when you post (on many platforms), but about nobody uses this feature, and the choice is set to "Undetermined" on nearly all posts, making this feature useless.
Most people do not bother to set the language , so the "Undetermined" setting let's you see those posts and such. Ideally, set visible languages to Undetermined, English, and other languages of your choice.
If you forget to select a language when making a post, the language becomes "undetermined."
The vast majority of people do not take the time to mark the language of their post, and so Lemmy files them under "undetermined" because there is no language information.
When making a post, when you choose the "Undetermined" from the language-selector, it just pops it back to asking you to select a language, because the point of "Undetermined" is that no language metadata has been added.
So in your user settings page, if you remove "Undetermined" from your list of languages, you will not see most posts since most people do not actually choose a language for their post.
I personally do not find this confusing at all.
tbh I think the backend software itself should prompt you to select a default language on signup and choose not to specify should be an option or multiple should be an option for people who really just post in multiple languages. that way people who are either monolingual or just do most of their interaction in one language (probably a great majority of users) can have their posts auto tagged.
(I'm not OP) Okay - not confusing, but annoying AF. In Thunder at least, "undetermined" is an option for filtering posts that you see, but it often switches to that by itself when making an edit & when that's selected upon submitting an edit it complains that language isn't allowed - yet it'll accept the separate "no language" option. WTF?
Wild, I have never had that issue on desktop or in Jerboa.
Makes sense, but here me out
That's a STUPID ass system.
Why is it stupid to give people the option to only see posts that explicitly selected a language?
The only stupid thing here imo is the UI and how it's explained, it shouldn't be part of a multiselect together with the rest of the languages.