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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.cafe 4 points 59 minutes ago (1 children)

How can these supposedly knowledgeable Christian "leaders" do this without thinking about Moses destroying the Golden Calf, or even the 10 Commandments' warnings against having no Gods before me, and no graven images, etc.?

I suppose if you're okay with all the other commandments being broken, these ones aren't really so bad. It's not like Killing or Stealing, and they do that shit every day.

And as long as we're on the subject, the 10 Commandments say NOTHING about pedophilia, so GAME ON!

[–] jama211@lemmy.world 1 points 6 minutes ago* (last edited 5 minutes ago)

Because hypocrisy is the point. Every time they do something with hypocrisy, it makes us shocked, they think it's hilarious when we get shocked, so they try and do something even bigger that shocks us more next time. And we keep falling for it, over and over and over.

We keep being like "WHAAAT? THEY CLAIMED ONE THING THEN DID ANOTHER?????" and they're cackling because they've done that 500 times and we still get shocked every time, they think it's the funniest thing in the world, and shows just how stupid we are.

Stop being shocked. Stop asking "but HOW CAN THEY..." - the answer is they're liars. That's it, they're liars, get over it, and maybe that'll stop us being stun locked long enough for us to actually do something about it.

Stop falling for it.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.cafe 1 points 1 hour ago
[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 6 points 2 hours ago

The lack of awareness and intelligence never ceases to cofound me. Following the anti-christ, the person they want to start armageddon, is a one-way ticket to hell for these clowns. And they’re all for it. Yet they think they’re the good guys?

[–] sol6_vi@lemmy.makearmy.io 1 points 1 hour ago

The Golden Calf

[–] ZMoney@lemmy.world 9 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

So I always thought the whole End Times eschatology was just bullshit to scare people and convince them that their religion had it all figured out. But now I've come to realize the metaphorical power of the stories themselves.

[–] RunawayFixer@lemmy.world 9 points 5 hours ago

History repeats itself. The bible stories are based on things that had happened before, so with stories they tried to warn people not to fall for it again or the bad times would come back, and now people are falling for it again.

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 109 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

Not a Christian, but I used to be one, and I've never heard of anyone fitting the criteria for the antichrist better than Donald Trump

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 49 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.cafe 13 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

There it is. If you hadn't posted it, I would have.

[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 20 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

Right? I had a grandparent heavy into that part of Christianity before they died. The guys fits. As does the bad weather. I’m a bit surprised the Christian following hasn’t gone there. Granted, there may not be one of any significance given how bot run the internet is these days.

https://arxiv.org/pdf/2302.00381v1

There’s a fun Forbes article voicing concern about wasting ad efforts on bots. If any relief occurs it will be because of this. https://www.forbes.com/sites/emmawoollacott/2024/04/16/yes-the-bots-really-are-taking-over-the-internet/

If you ask AI they list the number at 20% not 50%.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 15 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I’m a bit surprised the Christian following hasn’t gone there.

Isn't a big part of it how the Antichrist deceives people into following him who ought to know better?

[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 1 points 34 minutes ago

That is the story, yes.

[–] jtrek@startrek.website 9 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

. I’m a bit surprised the Christian following hasn’t gone there.

Many Christians are theologically incompetent. They don't know their scripture. They just like feeling good.

[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 1 points 36 minutes ago

I think it’s more about community. White culture in america is trademarked by a lack of community. Unless you go to church or join a cult/hate group.

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 hour ago

But didn't JD Vance say the pope needs to understand theology more before he starts preaching about what Trump is or isn't doing? /s

Fuck America is so lost.

[–] db2@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Don't forget there's a fair number of evangelicals who want all this to happen and more so their imaginary friend can come back to life and they themselves can live forever. They actually believe that.

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 hour ago

I'm not a religious man but I am a man of faith. I've explained to many people the biggest of the problems to me is accepting that someone can absolve me of all my sins. If I go to hell I go to hell but I own what I've done. That is between me and God and no person regardless of who they are has the right to absolve me of my sins.

It's that fervent lack of accountability it instills in otherwise weak people that really sours me.

Oh, and the general inconsistencies in the rules. Because everyone fails to acknowledge that God may be real but religion is a concept made and evolved by man and man is inherently flawed.

Long story short, my relationship is with God. Not the church. Not the religion. Not Jesus. With whatever I chose to believe is above is all.

Yes I know it's not really responding to what you said but Jesus Christ I have met and dated real Christians and they are so not like these dollartree Christians you have in America.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.cafe 3 points 13 hours ago

I’m a bit surprised the Christian following hasn’t gone there.

They are really Christians.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

There is no god and no antichrist. Humanity has seen worse. They've all been human.

[–] CTDummy@aussie.zone 12 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Given they stated they’re a former Christian not sure your remark will be a revelation to them. More pointing out the hypocrisy of the same crowd trying to use religion as the reason in every conversation (e.g. sexuality and gender) constantly forget the basics and TL:DR rules of Christianity. Like it isn’t even that far down the list, it’s rule two.

There may have been worse, though many of them were likely not in charge of the self proclaimed “leader of the free world”, not many have exhibited overtly anti-Christ like qualities. I get what you’re saying but it comes off as almost dismissive of gestures broadly at geopolitical landscape.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca -2 points 4 hours ago

Still just human beings. No invisible sky goblins required.

[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 27 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

The USA is probably the nation furthest from christian values at this moment. Well, aside from the genocide and pedophilia. They got that shit on LOCK.

[–] Flower@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 hours ago

It's the place where they complain to the pastor he should stop spouting woke bs and just read from the bible.

[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 17 points 12 hours ago

It is also a characteristic of the Anti-Christ being on earth I believe

[–] crunchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 64 points 16 hours ago (4 children)

Lol, not even really gold, like the rest of his crap:

the president fails to mention the fact that the figure is merely wrapped in gold leaf.

The shiny livery was added to the bronze statue by the sculptor, who told the Daily Beast that it was the easiest mark-up of his life. “They loved the idea, of course. It’s like pitching ice water to a man dying of thirst. It was not a hard sell,” Alan Cottrill said.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.cafe 32 points 13 hours ago

The artist literally upsold them for no other reason than money, and then bragged about gouging them over making it shiny. There was also something about him holding the statue until they paid in full, before delivering it. He knows what's up with these losers.

[–] Ontimp@feddit.org 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

To be fair, let's do some math: A tall human man has a volume of about 70 liters. Some searching online tells me that we would need 43480 ouncs to fill that volume with real 100% 24k gold and thus make a life-sized statue. At current market rate, such a statue would cost 173 Million € or 204 Million $

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 hour ago

It would have been gold plated, not made entirely out of gold. Yet they didn't even bother with that.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 38 points 16 hours ago

Give it a few months and the gold leaf is flaking off, and they start fixing it with spray paint. It's all so poetic.

[–] Mohamed@lemmy.ca 12 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Such a waste. Bronze looks so much better than that gold, especially when it rusts.

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 4 points 12 hours ago

I wonder how this will patina with piss. I can't be the only one that really wants to piss on it. I'm sure that will become a thing.

[–] thefluffiest@feddit.nl 40 points 15 hours ago

Then it was a golden calf. Now it’s a golden pig

[–] Hackworth@piefed.ca 16 points 16 hours ago

Jesus fucking christ

[–] fonix232@fedia.io 9 points 15 hours ago

Well, not really the oldest, that would be "hey guys, see that tree? don't eat its fruit. anything else you can eat, just not THAT one. Kay?"

but it's definitely up there in being one of the most well known rules.

[–] klu9@piefed.social 8 points 14 hours ago

"God?! God's a radical left lunatic, so soft on crime, so soft. What did God do to stop Iran getting nukes? Nothing! Not like me."

[–] SarahValentine@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 16 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Saprophyte@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

I think this is more fitting.

2 Thessalonians 2:3-12 NRSVUE [3] Let no one deceive you in any way, for that day will not come unless the rebellion comes first and the lawless one is revealed, the one destined for destruction. [4] He opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, declaring himself to be God. [5] Do you not remember that I told you these things when I was still with you? [6] And you know what is now restraining him, so that he may be revealed when his time comes. [7] For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work, but only until the one who now restrains it is removed. [8] And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will destroy with the breath of his mouth, annihilating him by the manifestation of his coming. [9] The coming of the lawless one is apparent in the working of Satan, who uses all power, signs, lying wonders, [10] and every kind of wicked deception for those who are perishing because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. [11] For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion, leading them to believe what is false, [12] so that all who have not believed the truth but took pleasure in unrighteousness will be condemned.

[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 5 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

What are the odds it’s stolen Fort Knox gold?

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 10 points 14 hours ago

0%. However that's only because we haven't used Fort Knox to store gold for a few decades now.

[–] fonix232@fedia.io 10 points 15 hours ago

Knowing Trump? It's probably styrofoam spray painted gold.

[–] Elilol@fedinsfw.app 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Could they be more evidently ignorant and oblivious?

[–] jama211@lemmy.world 1 points 4 minutes ago

Some are ignorant and oblivious but most are simply malignant liars.