The Disney Magic is Bahama flagged. This is not US territory and ICE has no right to be on it what sort ever.
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Hahaha, look at that guy thinking the law has any meaning in the US of A.
So your telling me I can wave a flag and laws don't matter in port?
Not how it works. It was stopped in US waters and so was subject to local jurisdiction.
LMAO, I love it when conservatives pretend to care about "the law" when they support politicians who use it as toilet paper.
Not how it works. By your logic, ice can detain all personell on every vessel that docks in us? Bulk carriers, tankers, sea container? People who won't set foot on us soil. send a boat, get your crew kidnapped. That's going to go over well.
Well, yes. That is how international law stands.
I wonder how the Mickey takes his whiskey? Neat?
When corporations start bleeding profits bc of the terrible tangerine pedo, maybe they’ll start caring
They will care when he goes after the people employing them (he won't)
Brown people? Not on my watch -ICE
as they employ BROWN people to attack other brown people.
They actually love brown people. They want their cheap labor and this stuff keeps people afraid and makes them keep their head down. It has the added benefit that they get to parade it around to their electorate like 'something is being done'
It's theater to keep poor white people in fly over states from realizing that the people in power are the ones selling them out and have been the entire time.
“Just” theater.
Such privileged hot takes.
They didn't say it was just theater. Interpreting it as theater is a privileged take, but I think it's also true that one of the motivations of this horror show is to indulge the racism of the MAGA base to distract them from how they're getting fucked over by this administration too.
Multiple things can be true at once.
Wait, these crew members were on a ship, not on US soil. US Customs and Immigration is on land which you have to pass through to get to the USA. ICE actually dragged them onto US soil just so they could say they were there illegally? WTF?!
Technically you need permission to dock. It means that the entire crew manifest was known to the government prior to arrival and they were given permission to dock. Then they were arrested. If there was a problem with them being in the US they should never have been given permission.
Applying logic here won't work.
Apparently DCL registers its ships in the Bahamas. I don't know if ICE/CBP have jurisdiction on foreign ships without a bunch of warrants.
I know Disney's lawyers are well funded and ruthless, but does anyone think they'll go into bat for these people? They only seem to care about copyright infringement, not their actual workers.
not their actual workers.
Are they even their "actual workers" or are they contractors?
(Read the tone as snark towards Disney for over using contractors and refusing to hire people, not at who I am replying to.)
Indeed. They'll care even less about them. I'm sure they're being exploited to the hilt. Fuck Disney.
This hurts the Disney image and the margins on their cruises, so they might.
I've done some work for Disney and the amount of effort that goes into the Disney image is astounding. It's the main thing they care about besides money although they are related.
A high profile lawsuit might be seen as something which could also hurt their image. The entire population of The Villages would probably boycot Disney World. Hopefully Disney's execs pay attention to public opinion and not just their golf buddies.
ICE vs MICE
Mickey Mouse organisation vs Mick-Mouse organisation
If ICE shows they'll storm a foreign flagged cruise ship to abduct crew members, why would any passenger think they wouldn't also try to grab them, too?
Wearing an embroidered polo doesn't change your rights.
It depends if the optics become so severe it’s impossible for them to ignore.
They seem to think they have jurisdiction in AMERICAN CITIZENS’ HOUSES without a judicial warrant; surely foreign ships are considered gimmes.
I’m confused, cruise ships usually have all their work permits and stuff handled ahead of time for the crew. How can you be an illegal immigrant if you’re just working on a boat for a day and not staying here?
Legality has nothing to do with it. It is super simple.
ABC didn't fire Jimmy Kimmel.The people on that ship are paying a high cost for that defiance. They are merely externalities for Disney's punishment. I suppose terrifying people is a nice side effect for those in charge. But retribution is the motivation.
Simple as that.
Because ICE don't give a fuck about facts. They have been arresting, incarcerating and murdering legal American citizens too. They have Trump and Vance's backing.
and MSM have basically stopped reporting it, likely to change the narrative when fox and grifter news decide to report on it, its just sound bytes for fox for years. "california,NYC is a hellhole, allowing illegal immigrants"-right wing news, and right wing youtubers.
ABC is owned by Disney. Jimmy Kimmel works for ABC. Trump is getting revenge
Disney donates heavily to the gop to give them favors.
Yes revenge and maybe also mob tactics to strong arm compliance to fire Kimmel.
As far as I know almost no cruise ships are actually American flagged vessels and therefore are perfectly able to directly employ foreign nationals without citizenship or US work authorization. They aren't even under the jurisdiction of ICE.
Disney ships are all Bahamanian flagged ships and have absolutely no obligation to employ American citizens.
ICE had been abducting legal residents from the beginning. They camp out in front of immigration court houses... The last place you'd find an undocumented person.
I used to work on cruise ships and all non-US crew are given an I-95 permit to go ashore in the US by CBP when they go through immigration before the 1st US port (officials usually come onboard before the ship gets to the US). I wonder if these crew members couldn't get one (for whatever reason)? Usually, if that happens, CBP just make them stay onboard in US ports, but the US is doing things a bit differently these days.
Your mistake here was thinking they give a fuck about the law or proper procedure at all

You know some asshole in a meeting was like you know let’s go raid a cruise ship
Cruise ships attract old white people - one of them must have called ICE to complain.
