Really glad I decided to switch to GrapheneOS. My next phone will be a Motorola for sure.
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motorola makes great phone. I remember my 1st Android phone, after years on iOS, was the Moto Z Play. That thing can last a week with light usage, or 3 days with medium usage on a single charge. Also remember those moto mods? Motorola had like speaker mod and even a mini projector that you can just snap on the phone.
They made better phones before Google bought them so they could strip all their patents before dumping the remaining husk on Lenovo for 15% of its previous value.
So what do we do when they start making it harder and harder to install graphene?
Getting a motorola cause they explicitly will be supporting GrapheneOS.
But all of that is just a stepping stone. As soon as I deem linux phones to be usable as a daily driver for me, I won't look back.
We still don't know anything about the phones' specifications, prices.
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If the rest-of-the-world can get its head out of its ass, a fork of AOSP with an open governance and a commitment to opensource and open platform, so that every one benefits from it. You wouldn't need that much from each country to get more resources on that AOSP-bis than Google will ever be able to pour on its homebrew version.
You make a rule that public service can only buy devices using AOSP-bis based systems (or even better: states choose their own AOSP distros) and quickly, Google has no choice but to follow your version, not the other way around.
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I am so endlessly angry at this, I actually switched banks because my old bank's app didn't work on a degoogled phone.
This is the kind of action we need to take. Im proud of you for making the change. Taking the time. Making the effort to say nope fuck you and fuck that.
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Please consider donating to PostmarketOS to build up a pure mobile Linux alternative that is completely free of Google's influence. It's the best option we have.
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Thats great and all, but completely non-actionable.
Tell me instead - what exactly should I do?
(should have mentioned that I already have a pinephone and grapheneOS on a GOOGLE pixel)
Install GrapheneOS on a used Pixel or an upcoming Moto.
Or e/os on its supported devices
Move. Currently get a phone compatible with Lineage/GrapheneOS (second hand pixel, coz fuck Google). Soonish, Linux phone.
The Linux phone is like Iranian nukes... always just right around the corner.
Sad but true, or fusion, or AGI. Still volla is selling even if not really open source, and pressure is building.
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Gross they are acting like USA.
It is Google, one of the pillars of evil in the USA.
The fucked up thing with phones is the locked boot loaders. Locked boot loaders should not exist because this seriously restricts the driver and OS development.
Well they are good for security, but they don't have to be bad. Pixels are "locked" until you unlock it and install GrapheneOS and then re-lock it to prevent unauthorized access, that's preferable to both "no lock" and "lock you don't control" imo.
(This only applies to carrier unlocked pixels you buy elsewhere of course, if you buy it from a telcom company they lock it down, which is bad).
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GrapheneOS would be great, if it would just support 1000x the hardware it does now. With the extremely limited hardware it does support it's practically as good as useless for the vast majority of Android users
I'd switch tomorrow, would if I could
Most hardware doesn't support the fundamental security requirements of GrapheneOS, so that will never happen.
Look into things like /e/OS or Nothing Phone on the Android side, and the various Linux options (Jellyfish OS is, I think, the most advanced).
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My latest phone is a Fairphone 6 with e/OS preinstalled, so it came degoogled and easily repairable out of the box. I intend to keep it for at least a decade. I cant imagine a feature I would be willing to upgrade for, so I'll probably keep it longer than that.
the minute fair phone releases board schematics for the 6 I'll buy one. they did it with the 5, id love for them to do it with the 6.
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My tech brothers, how easy is it to install graphene on my pixel 7? Will my banking app (Barclays, UK) still work? Tia
Barclays: This app only runs in the owner profile and secure app spawning may have to be disabled
https://privsec.dev/posts/android/banking-applications-compatibility-with-grapheneos/
The installation is super easy - barely an inconvinience. However you need to set up everything on your phone manually - no easy transfer from stock Android afaik.
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It should. My banking apps worked fine. None of them work on a rooted phone but worked absolutely fine on Graphene.
I thought you had to root the phone to install graphene?
IIRC, no. You unlock the bootloader to install, re-lock, and enjoy your phone.
You have to unlock the bootloader, Grapheneos doesn't support root on the official builds.
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That’s not why 99% of people buy an Android phone. They buy it because it’s the only alternative to iPhones, and they start at significantly cheaper prices than iPhones.
The people that buy Android phones for their “openness” are the extreme minority.
The fact that android wasn't closed like apple's ecosystem was the exact reason I rejected apple for android.
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You aren't wrong. Only minor quibble is that a reason many of us use android is that it's been more open. Apple treats its customers like shit, and locking their hardware and software down like android is about to move even further toward, is all part of that overall contempt apple shows for customers. I would guess that if apple didn't lock their ecosystem so tight, Google may not have planned to make this change. They've probably been talking for years about how they can do it if apple gets away with it. They finally decided it was going to be worth pissing off a segment of users. Fucking assholes.
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Hoping that Graphene Motorola partnership ends up making Graphene some really well supported target for bank/finance apps for those that make that a part of their required features for a phone. I can live with Firefox. Many seemingly can't
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Root n ROM I guess
I consider myself pretty computer savvy but phones have always pissed me off. I got a Galaxy S22 Ultra because I wanted stylus and high refresh rate, but I consistently regret giving Samsung my business.
I have the SM-S908U1, what are realistically my best options here? I can't really afford an upgrade right now.
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On top of that, Samsung is ending its SMS and suggesting Google messenger as an alternative. I am not looking to train a chatGPT with my private text messages
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Fuck this. My next device will be a Fairphone with Murena OS.
I'm just gonna switch to linux for my next phone. It's past time.
Buying a phone is not exactly a choice.
Fine, ill go back to dumb phone era. 3310 here i come old buddy.
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