The trackpads are pretty useless on their own but when combined with the virtual menu system in steam they become S+ tier
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Hmm, so worthless for GOG?
Just add the GOG games to Steam. When you give them the same names as in Steam you can even use community layouts. That way even games that aren't on Steam have community layouts.
Yo can still use steaminput I think
It costs $99/€99/£85/$149 AUD
This is funny, because amer*can currency is nowhere near strong enough to be comparable to EUR now
Yeah, but because the price in the US is pre-tax the real price is around $108 which is still less than €99 but not by that much. Also, yeah USD is weakened but that also means people there are making less money so they have less purchasing power, it's common for companies to price the same thing lower on low-income countries and higher on high-income ones to compensate.
American prices reflect the lower purchasing power within the US interior because pricing has to be the same across state lines (because otherwise people would take advantage of state discounts, similar to how people take advantage of the no-VAT states). The US even has programs where banks give free money (usually 100-300$) to open accounts in order to incentivize people to spend and churn their financial institutions.
A huge chunk of the American economy is predicated on uneducated people being goaded into overspending by giving them extra money they think they can spend on non-necessities. For example: a bank gives you 100$ for opening an account, so you buy a 150$ sofa using their credit card, predicated on the fact that sofa purchase wouldn’t’ve occurred without the stimulus. Because financial literacy is so low in the US, the bank makes a net profit because a large enough cohort of credit users won’t pay their balances at the end of the month and end up paying 25% interest (which is roughly the interest charged on these credit cards).
I’m lower middle class, and I absolutely take advantage of my vacation times to fly to or near VAT-free states to buy big ticket electronics and similar. If I could stack that and fly to Montana for no VAT and “poor state” pricing, I absolutely would.
Scoring only 3.5 for software is pretty ridiculous, since Steam runs in every major desktop OS and SteamInput is crazy customizable. Most dedicated software for devices is either Windows-only or hot garbage (or both).
"I don't want a steam account" should be perfectly justifiable reason in itself. There is no technical reason why they can't split up steam input from the steam client for base functionality.
Exactly. If Epic released a $99 controller that required EGS running to work people would be up in arms.
Yeah, if Sony sold you a controller that requires playstation everyone would be up in arms... Ah, no, bad example, their controllers do require playstation and it is an open source driver that makes them work... I know! If Microsoft sold you a controller that requires Windows everyone would be up in arms... Ah, no, bad example, they already do and it's an open source driver that allows it to work outside of it... I guess this is just more of the same? Except (I still don't have mine so can't fully confirm but would be surprised if it didn't) the steam controller probably works just like a regular controller outside of Steam, you just lose SteamInput which is very important for this controller.
Supposedly the new Steam Controller will work similar to the Steam Deck. By default it acts as mouse + keyboard. On Linux the Steam Deck Controller can act as a gamepad when holding down the start button. Hopefully the new Controller uses the same driver.
But so far there is no Windows driver so they are stuck in keyboard+mouse mode.
The difference is everyone knows those companies are scummy, while they like to pretend Valve is the good guy.
Can you even buy this without a Steam account though? It's the Steam Controller, sold through Steam, designed to work on Steam. A third party driver to convert it to Xinput will probably drop within a week of its ship date (just like it did for the first Steam Controller), but if you're against having a Steam account I'd wonder why you want a Steam Controller in the first place. There's plenty of non-Steam controllers after all.
Definitely picking this up. I'm always interested in exploring new avenues in ergonomics. I got the original Steam controller when it came out. I thought it was an admirable first attempt but wasn't quite there yet. Particularly I thought the lack of dual analog sticks and a true D-pad was a problem, all of which seem to have been solved here.
While I kinda understand the steep price, not being able to use with other than Steam is a deal breaker for me. Yes, you can create shortcuts inside Steam and use the controller like that probably but still. On the other hand, I can use the old Steam controller even on a browser alongside with the rest of my OS.
I guarantee you that there’ll be a no-steam driver for this in a matter of months.
Someone will make it work within a few weeks.
I want this controller but split down the center so I can walk with them on a treadmill. There are joycons and third party joycons but none that I've found with the little track pads. That'd be HUGE.
linus tech tips did a video on this
The Open Split Deck is what the above commenter is referring to! Very cool project that is exactly what I'm looking for...just not for sale yet lol!
I hope that the Frame controllers will be sold separately. Of course they don't have trackpads either.
It's a shame that split controllers haven't caught on. Gaming is so much more relaxed when you aren't forced to have your hands together. I loved that since the Wii. But I haven't seen a split controller that I really like.
I was pretty excited for this controlled but $149 CAD is too much for me.
I'll be buying it when it goes for sale. Until then, my current peripherals work just fine