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[–] SailorFuzz@lemmy.world 90 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Man, that is a hugely misleading headline when casually glanced over. Not 95% efficiency; 95% of other panels....

Typical panels are about 20-24% efficient. So these roof tiles are like 19-22.5%. Not bad.

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 38 points 1 day ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (4 children)

Edit: didn't knew OP added the "compared to regular panels part". Disregard the rest of this comment.

I think is a good title, it's tells how compare against regular solar panels. Saying their absolute efficiency wouldn't really tell a lot because not everyone knows what means having a 20% efficiency.

[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's poorly worded but anyone that thinks panels are anything close to 95% wasn't paying attention. Even hydro power which just gravity and a turbine barely achieves 95%

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

But heat pumps are over 100%.

[–] turboSnail@piefed.europe.pub 1 points 10 hours ago

If you compare moving heat with making heat, you’re going to get pretty absurd numbers anyway.

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

No.

The title implies that, somehow, colored solar panels hit 95% efficiency, compared to panels that are not colored. To be clear, it should say:

"Colored solar panels that mimic tiles roof achieve 95% of the efficiency of regular solar tiles"

[–] FearfulSalad@ttrpg.network 5 points 1 day ago

Colored solar panels that mimic tiles roof hit 95% efficiency compared to regular solar tiles

Do they hit 95% of regular solar tiles efficiency? Or do they hit 95% efficiency, while regular solar tiles hit (presumably) less?

It is a clickbait title because it offers more than one interpretation. One is reasonable (and correct), but not punchy. The other is outlandish (and wrong) but draws the reader in on the off chance that it might be right. Hence the subsequent disappointment in the headline.

If you only see the "correct" interpretation, more power to you: you weren't baited and thus had nothing to be disappointed by.

But the headline is, objectively, phrased to bait the click from a wide swath of readers who question if the "incorrect" interpretation just might be true.

[–] plz1@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

It's poorly worded to mislead into "actual efficiency". People looking at solar panels need the real number, not how it compares to traditional ones. This is at worst misleadingly worded, or at best, poor journalism.

[–] inari@piefed.zip 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

compared to regular solar tiles

That's why I editorialized and added that bit

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 2 points 18 hours ago

Oh, didn't knew you added that.

[–] 5715@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago

People are just not paying any attention whatsoever.

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 6 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Wouldn't you want them all to be black to maximize effectiveness? Damn marketing. In the not too distant future daily talk shows will have segments on which colours are fashionable this year for solar panels.

[–] Rubanski@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

But why? It's not about heat absorbtion but photon collection

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 1 points 17 hours ago (4 children)

I'm no solar panel expert, just using common sense. If it is not heat conversion then I'm whistling in the wind. Black absorbs more heat, more quickly, but if it is not about heat, just light, then ignore this.

[–] Rubanski@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Check out why Einstein got his Nobel Price. That's the fundamental mechanism behind solar panels. It has nothing to do with the absorbtion of heat. If you use solar to heat water, that's a different type of solar collector

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 9 points 17 hours ago

Energy at certain wavelengths hits the solar cell and migrates electrons in a flat plane. Thin wires grab those electrons to make current. Heat actually reduces the efficiency.

[–] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 4 points 17 hours ago

Solar panels that absord heat exist, those panels are used to heat water. For PV you want to capture photons that kick electrons from the valence band into the conduction band of the material to get an electric current. Basically the inverse of an LED, you turn light directly into electricity. Any heat here is wasted energy. The PV cells are optimised for specific frequency bands and in those bands they don't reflect well. If you want to capture visible light the panels are appearing relatively dark.

[–] sefra1@lemmy.zip 2 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Actually, photovoltaic solar panels work more efficiently when cold, heat makes them less efficient. I've read.

[–] jerebear39@slrpnk.net 16 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

The ability to have energy generation from roof tiles is so damn cool!!! The solarpunk future is becoming more true every day, and I'm all for it!

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 5 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

It's a waste of money. Most of the tiles will be in shade. PV panels are better and easily replaced if damaged by weather.

And roof installations for panels are expensive to put in and take out, and need to be taken out to replace roof shingles/tiles under them.

This tech might end up being the best of both worlds for roof panels because they have the potential to remove the frame from the equation.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 3 points 20 hours ago

Tell me they're not shiny enough to melt vinyl siding and I'm sold.

[–] pmtriste@lemmy.world 7 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

When can I buy them?? I've been reading about roof tile panels for ages, but I've never seen on win real life.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 6 points 17 hours ago

Maybe because the ones demonstrated by Elon Musk were made by an LA prop shop and never existed.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 day ago (5 children)

or, you know, you can just put them somewhere else and use cables to transport electricity to the house, like it was done the last 100 years.

Instructions unclear, bulldozed public spaces to build a parking lot with a solar roof over it.

Will try again with nearby farmland.

On my way to buy a plot of land to save on energy bills 🚄

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 5 points 20 hours ago

Have you ever been on a hot roof in summer? At least this puts that necessary but otherwise unused surface area to use.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 day ago

Yeah, but they aren't doing that very fast. So gotta buy my own.

[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 2 points 18 hours ago

Still a great piece of tech. I think decentralizing power generation is better for both land use and for the individual.

These panels will be nice for areas with strict architectural laws

[–] in_my_honest_opinion@piefed.social 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (4 children)

20% is what standard photovoltaics were doing a decade ago. I cannot wait until these are standard on all roofs in a few decades.

Edit: Yes I know the title is misleading, I'm saying these colored roof tiles are performing on par with the setup many Americans installed 10 years ago at the height if the subsidies.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 15 points 1 day ago

It's 95% of regular panels, so it's 5% worse.

I would go with regular panels in that case, unless they are shaped like tiles and can provide better coverage of the roof. 5% efficiency drop but 15% coverage increase could be worth it. But I expect install costs would be quite a bit higher

[–] Hayduke@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

They still are, on average. This headline is just poorly worded or outright misleading.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 2 points 20 hours ago

Imagine this + electric cars working as grid storage.