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Doug Ford keeps on getting reelected, his brother was the mayor of Toronto despite the drugs and overall unseriousness... I mean why do people elect these guys? Is it for the memes and laughs?

I'm being totally serious when I ask this btw. What does the average Doug voter's rationale for getting this guy in office? Same with former Rob Ford voters. Who voted for Rob Ford? Why?

Edit: TLDR of the answers seem to be:

  • Horrible effect of fptp, vote split between liberals, ndp and the greens
  • Low voter turnout
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[–] alext@lemmy.ca 30 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Conservatives tend to just vote conservative, regardless who the candidate is, they just feel it's their 'what papa always did' tradition.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 weeks ago

Loyalty is the single most defining characteristic of conservatives. No matter the crime or idiocy, they vote for the Jersey colour they like, and they never see why politics isn't like a sports team.

[–] brianpeiris@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

Despite Ontario being home to multiple metropolitan cities, those cities are surrounded by many suburbs, rural towns and farmland, and that comprises a large part of the conservative base that Dougie relies on. Of course there is also a good amount of support from conservative business owners, corporate types, and the wealthy within the cities as well.

Dougie also captured a mandate in a Feb 2025 snap election on the back of the tariffs and political turmoil caused by The Orange One to the South. He stood up against Trump, famously popularizing a "Canada is not for sale" hat after the first annexation threats. And, to be a little fair, he did a surprisingly decent job handling Covid, so he has some clout from that too.

That said, he was already doing corrupt shit well before 2025, but now he's pushing the envelope even further because he won't face an election for a while (I guess, not sure what the options are there).

Maybe moderate conservatives are paying attention and souring to him now, but the country has also shifted right, again due to the Overton window moving in the US, but also because of Poilievre shifting the federal conservatives far right, making Dougie look half sane. Oddly we are now in a situation where the Liberal party might attract more conservative voters because Carney too is conservative-lite.

So in summary, the NDP has a lot of work to do, and they're in a terrible position to do it. Jebus help us.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

he did a surprisingly decent job handling Covid

Ontario had the most nursing home deaths of any region in the world. Ford's response: indemnify nursing home corps from lawsuits and promise an inquiry that never happened. He also declared an end to COVID in 2022 and it continues to be the #5 killer in Ontario. Ignorance is why Ford gets re-elected. Despite "Elbows out" bullshit, Ontario behaves like any other red state.

[–] brianpeiris@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Fair point. I guess I'm just surprised he didn't go full anti-mask, anti-vax, inject bleach, horse de-wormer conservative.

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[–] cheeseburger@piefed.ca 10 points 2 weeks ago

So rural Ontario is the same as rural everywhere else in Canada. Cool.

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[–] Nils@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

https://www.fairvote.ca/ontario/ for more info but in short:

Ford got 65% of seats with only 43% of votes, but only a small group voted in the last election. That means he was elected by ~20% of eligible voters. More than half of eligible voters did not vote last election.

We have here an electorate system that discards people's vote, discourage people to vote, or straight up disenfranchise them. For all the reasons you might be familiar with, gerrymandering, massive different in number of people in each district, propaganda from local and foreign agents. Also, I don't think the representative from my district lives here, I only hear about them during election time.

[–] wraekscadu@vargar.org 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Ah now this makes a lot more sense. I didn't know fptp was THAT bad in Ontario.

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[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 weeks ago

More than half of eligible voters did not vote last election.

Which is the same as voting for Ford. They think everything is fine.

Agree with everything that you said...add the size of our ridings at a 100,000 people to 1 representative. Ridings should be no larger than 30,000 people. Many people have never met, or could point out. their rep.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 16 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Ontario is like most US states. Most don't vote, and the hicks who do vote love populist MAGA politics and were triggered when Ontario had a lesbian Premiere, it was Ontario's Obama panic moment that surged the US right.

We like them Pale, Male, Stale, and without a hint of Kale. Ford has repeatedly stated he is a Republican and a huge supporter of Trump. He's broken all records for fiscal irresponsibility and corruption.

What drives all this is not the numbers from hicks, but the much greater numbers from people who refuse to vote. It does help that the opposition parties have very weak candidates who are also being ignored by the corporate press.

Calling postmedia press is an insult to journalism.

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[–] observantTrapezium@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Not answering the question of why these bozos get voted on, but one would be remiss not to mention our dumb and unfair first-past-the-post electoral system.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago

Changing FPTP wont fix people refusing to participate in democracy, then whining about Fascism.

[–] thisorthatorwhatever@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

The size of ridings is also too big, currently almost over 100,000 people. Should be capped at 30,000. A situation that no one brings attention to.

[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Where does the 30000 number come from? Why 30000?

[–] thisorthatorwhatever@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Look at the size of ridings in 1867, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Pearce_Howland Total Eligible voters 2,243. The winner received 810 votes. By the time riding reached over 30,000 voter participation started to drop significantly.

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[–] stylusmobilus@aussie.zone 9 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Yeah I’m from Australia and I haven’t been able to work this out either.

[–] Lodespawn@aussie.zone 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

We could ask the same question about the beetrooter, Angus Taylor, Pauline Hanson or any number of openly corrupt, mostly incompetent conservative politicians. I'm not from NSW but holy hell that Barilaro idiot seems like a real corrupt piece of shit but still managed to convince one of the richest states in the nation to make him Premier.

[–] stylusmobilus@aussie.zone 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I suppose we could, but Ford and his brother stand out.

Hanson is probably the closest match.

I’m still trying to work out how Joyce manages to hold his seat, it’s incredible.

[–] Lodespawn@aussie.zone 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Joyce looks like he has trouble just standing up let alone holding a seat ..

[–] stylusmobilus@aussie.zone 2 points 2 weeks ago

Yes he certainly does. He’s taken a couple of falls drunk.

[–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 weeks ago

I'm in Ontario myself and it's mind-boggling but it's partially because his voters stick any negatives on the federal Liberal party and any positives on Ford. Ford has been completely gutting our provincial public healthcare system but a Conservative upset about hospitals shutting down or whatever will just direct all that anger towards Mark Carney (or non-white immigrants...)

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Same thing as Trump. Same people.

[–] stylusmobilus@aussie.zone 1 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah see with the US and Australia, maybe the Old Dart, the dipshittery seems to be spread out a bit.

In Canada it looks as if the problems confined to Ontario and these two who stand out like a carbuncle on the back of your leg. I don’t know though, I’m not Canadian so I could be missing others.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Rob won because his opponent was gay and Toronto couldn't have a gay mayor.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Doug won because his opponent was gay and Ontario couldn’t have a gay Premiere.

Ontario is cold Florida.

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About half of Ontarians are outright racists, homophobic, and sexist. They just hide it. Never fool yourself into believing otherwise.

[–] Daysofcoleco@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Your average rube wants to stick it to someone even if it means sticking it to themselves at the same time.

[–] aarch0x40@piefed.social 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I found this to be pretty informative on the matter https://youtu.be/nACJOKV_YYA

[–] Kirp123@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

It's a great video. Bobby is one of my favorite channels.

[–] ExtremeDullard@piefed.social 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Rob Ford has his own gravity field. Ontarians can't escape his event horizon.

[–] Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago

At this point he is nothing but dictator Doug to me.

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