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[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 3 points 6 hours ago

The best way to make cigarettes cool to kids is to make them fully illegal, this is a nonsense law unless you are trying to increase the amount of kids smoking cigarettes.

[–] chmod755@feddit.org 1 points 6 hours ago

Tell everyone that they'll regret it at an early age

[–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 11 points 12 hours ago

Because Prohibition and the War on Drugs worked so well in the US, I guess?

Some parts of this bill, increasing the places where vaping is not permitted in line with smoking, are very welcome.

But bans of addictive substances only result in criminalising people who are addicted and putting them more at risk of harm, because now in addition to lung cancer they'll have black market goons to deal with as well.

[–] darkmogool@feddit.org 6 points 16 hours ago

Yeah… Criminalizing shit always works…

[–] snoons@lemmy.ca 48 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'm sure this will work as intended.

[–] Tarogar@feddit.org 4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Why work smart when you can work hard...

[–] blinfabian@feddit.nl 4 points 12 hours ago

why work smart when you can work dumb by repeating old mistakes

[–] icerunner_origin@startrek.website 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

IDK if I'd bother with the black market to acquire cigarettes if they were already illegal when I turned 18. Not the most exciting drug.

[–] Anivia@feddit.org 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

So you've never seen an underage person smoke? Kids already ignore the law and get cigarettes from adults or stores that don't bother checking their ID, so it's not even a hypothetical, it's just reality. Prohibition doesn't work

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 0 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Consider that the UK is becoming more and more of a surveillance-state, though. I doubt that "store clerk 'forgets' to check for ID" is going to stay a thing.

I'm not saying that a black market won't exist, but it's going to become more like buying "hard" illegal drugs is today, i.e. much harder than for drugs that are currently legal for all adults.

[–] Anivia@feddit.org 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I think you have zero clue how easy it is for children to buy hard drugs

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 0 points 9 hours ago

I certainly never consciously met someone who would sell me illegal-for-adults drugs as a kid.

I think you overestimate the willingness of most people to buy illegal drugs.

[–] user_name@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

Don’t even need them to be fully illegal to have black market demand. Eric Garner was selling loose (untaxed) cigarettes when the state executed him on the street in 2014. There’ll be demand for any black market no matter how apparently trivial the prohibition or unappealing the product, especially if the product is addictive.

[–] ZombieCyborgFromOuterSpace@piefed.ca 2 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

No but a good cigar with a scotch or a coffee is always good. Occasionally.

[–] tomiant@piefed.social 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Giant bong rips is where it's at, as long as they don't make weed illegal I'm good!

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 1 points 6 hours ago

Do you honestly think they aren't going to do that?

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 4 points 22 hours ago (1 children)
[–] ZombieCyborgFromOuterSpace@piefed.ca 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

5% of the time it's good 100% of the times.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 2 points 22 hours ago

Gotcha. I haven't smoked in years, but a good single malt Scotch or Irish is definitely good with a good chocolate or green. For that matter, I've not drank whiskey in years either, but I can still vividly recall the flavors.

[–] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 15 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Smoking is already on a consistent, significant decline in the UK.

Risking a black market (let's be clear actually - definitely causing one) hardly seems worth a possible increased rate of decline.

[–] pantherina@feddit.org 5 points 17 hours ago

What could go wrong when making laws depending on entire generations

[–] SoupBrick@pawb.social 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] You@feddit.org 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I gave the full title from the get go and haven't changed it. But the preview is funny and maybe it will come to that.

[–] hopesdead@startrek.website 6 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] jenesaisquoi@feddit.org 5 points 13 hours ago

Because of the existing addicts. It would create a black market.

[–] cadekat@pawb.social 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If I were to guess, it's because a blanket ban would turn the people who actually go out and vote against you.

[–] tomenzgg@midwest.social 9 points 23 hours ago

I'd've assumed the addiction factor. Forcing an addict to quit could cause stress that won't be present for those who haven't started, yet.

But literally just a guess, on my part.

[–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 2 points 17 hours ago

Because people don't like to be told what to do. Why create a black market when there is already a steep and steady decline?