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Fox News host Sean Hannity dedicated a segment of his Thursday show to deliver a message to Pope Leo XIV, suggesting he and others at the Vatican had totally lost sight of the true meaning of the bible and its teachings.

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[–] SailorFuzz@lemmy.world 227 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

Hannity thinks he (and Trump) knows more about how the Bible should be read and interpreted than the Pope?.......

Do these people even hear themselves?

[–] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 121 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Doesn't matter. Magats hear, believe and obey.

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 25 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's not so much MAGATs. How can the news allow people to say stuff like this to the public.

The real issue is our quality expectations to the news distribution

[–] SquareScarletCougar@lemmy.world 47 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Its because its not news. They have the title of news outlet. However they are a conservative commentary channel, and they don't consider facts, neutrality or decour.

Even they have admitted that they are not news: "In 2020, Fox News successfully defended a defamation lawsuit involving Tucker Carlson by arguing that his program was primarily entertainment rather than factual reporting"

https://truthlytics.com/module-9-the-fox-news-defense-and-the-boundaries-between-journalism-and-entertainment/

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[–] Chozo@fedia.io 26 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

This is pretext for their base, to justify the Pope's upcoming assassination by the US government.

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[–] HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works 16 points 3 weeks ago

I mean, this is pretty much a protestant viewpoint so... who cares?

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[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 155 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

Be kind to others

-Bible, New Testament's teachings of Jesus

Being kind to others is evil, and it's not what Jesus would have stood for!

-Republicans

Reminder: be kind to others

-Pope

The Pope is a libtard.

-Faux News

^My basic understanding of whats going on.

[–] GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world 57 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Ex-cultist here. Specifically, fundamentalist Christian in the US.

So what we're seeing here is a division between in-groups and out-groups, and drawing that circle closer as a means of guarding against valid criticism. Consider; the standard response of most cults when they are under attack is to double down on its assertions that it is telling the truth. Most cults are built with a persecution complex as key part of exploiting their believers.

This tactic triggers their emotional response to rally to the defense of their cause, because "We're under attack! We're being hunted! The Worst Thing Possible is going to happen, and it is THIS PERSECUTOR'S fault!" This also forces a false choice in members who are doubting the leadership, forcing them to either cut all social ties and side with the enemy (they are trained to see this as a fate worse than death) or rehearse their dogma and rally without question.

[–] khannie@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago

Ex-cultist here

Congrats on getting out.

[–] agingelderly@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

^My basic understanding of whats going on.

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[–] LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world 96 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Lmao I love how folks are telling the VOICE OF GOD ON EARTH that he's wrong.

(I'm an atheist and don't believe it, but this whole situation is hilarious.)

[–] Catma@lemmy.world 26 points 3 weeks ago (25 children)

Catholics are not real "Christians". So they dont believe in the Pope's position or respect the Pope.

I cannot fathom telling a guy who has dedicated his life to the church though that he doesn't understand the bible. Then again that is the republican MO, if you think you know better than an expert clearly you do.

[–] Nikelui@lemmy.world 24 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

I'm going to be pedantic, but it's the exact opposite of what you wrote. Catholics are a branch of Christians, who give more importance to the role of saints and the teachings of the Roman Catholic Church, among other differences.
So you should actually argue that they are not really Catholics, if they don't recognize the authority of the Pope.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I had to read their comment a few times, but I think when they said "they," they were referring to people like Hannity.

Catholics are not real “Christians”. So they dont believe in the Pope’s position or respect the Pope.

Like "according to people like Hannity, Catholics are not real Christians. Therefore, people like Hannity don't believe in the Pope's position or respect the Pope"

Definitely a strange way to word it.

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[–] fun_times@lemmy.world 72 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

There's a name for catholics who believe that the pope isn't always right.

They are called protestants.

Catholicism only has one firm rule: The pope is always right, without exception. There's nothing wrong with criticizing the pope. Just don't call yourself a catholic if you do.

[–] Tiresia@slrpnk.net 31 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

A friend of mine studied theology and said (when I remarked something similar) that that's a very Protestant perspective.

Catholicism has had a long history of people disagreeing with the pope. There have been antipopes, wars between Catholics and the Papal State, theological factions where the Pope is just one participant, etc. . Papal infallibility is a very recent doctrine, and it only applies when he is speaking ex cathedra, which is rarely. Many Catholics don't adhere to it, and many only consider it a matter of worldly convenience against schisms.

That said, there are no AI generated images of Trump wearing Papal vestments or overseeing the holy mass. Trump is not presented as an anti-Pope, but as an anti-Christ.

[–] SpatchyIsOnline@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

antipopes

Do they annihilate releasing huge amounts of energy if they touch the regular pope?

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[–] CaptainBasculin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 65 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

bro, I am muslim so I have no idea how christian values work but even I can see this is heresy to an unbelievable degree. Your president calls himself the second Jesus, you cannot defend him against any religious person at that point, let alone the Pope.

[–] nomy@lemmy.zip 17 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

Where I'm at the Christians have mostly completely lost the plot. There's this complete perversion of the faith called Prosperity Gospel that basically believes money is proof of divine blessing. So being rich is proof you're in Gods favor.

Also where I am there's is non-0 number of Christians who legitimately believe we/someone needs to rebuild ancient buildings in the middle east so Jesus can return.

It's a death cult that believes money is proof that God approves of you. While simultaneously believing unending war/genocide in the middle east is a necessary evil. So they can just shrug their shoulders while people are slaughtered and say "God works in mysterious ways!"

Send help.

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[–] Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 56 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

suggesting he and others at the Vatican had totally lost sight of the true meaning of the bible

The parts of the bible he is talking about:

'King David had 500 concubines, for crying out loud'

(him defending Trump in 2016, according to Wikipedia)

[–] 20cello@lemmy.world 25 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

So this is how they justify pedophiles

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[–] Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone 45 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

These people would be so funny, if they weren't so dangerous.

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[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 43 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

Y'all raised in normal places have no idea how much the average Evangelical thinks the Catholic church is straight up Satanic. My parents swore up and down when I was a kid that Pope JP2 was entirely evil to the core, as were all Catholics other than JFK, ironically.

Maybe 98.5% of Faux News viewers didn't bat an eye at this, and took yet another Big swig of the Kool-aid. This is an absolutely normal perspective for American Evangelicals.

[–] gigastasio@sh.itjust.works 36 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

You wanna hear something that’ll absolutely destroy whatever little faith in humanity you may have left?

I once knew a guy who knew for a fact that Southern Baptist was the only true Christian religion. His reasoning? And he was absolutely dead serious when he said this and for him is was 100% a mic drop moment:

“Because his name was John the Baptist, not John the Catholic!”

This was something his aunt had said to him years ago, which I guess underscored its infallibility. He was by far the dumbest person I had ever met, and I’ve met a lot of dumb people.

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[–] nickiwest@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

When I was a teenager in the '90s, my mom's church did a six-week series of lessons on Wednesday nights about how the Catholic church only pretends to be Christian, followed by another series of lessons about how the Pope meets all of the criteria to be the Antichrist.

As Jesus said, "Love your neighbor, but only if he believes in me in exactly the same way you do."

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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 43 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Am I wrong, or is the thing the Pope said that has these freaks so upset basically like, "war is bad, don't do it"?

I mean for fuck sake...

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[–] varnia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 41 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

As an atheist, this is high popcorn season 🍿 And just when you think, US Americans can not behave more brainless, they start a feud with the pope. Is there anyone left they haven't pissed off?

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[–] Lutra@lemmy.world 36 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Who is Hannity?

  • Housepainter.
  • He attended but did not graduate from:
      • Sacred Heart Seminary
      • St. Pius Seminary
      • New York University
      • Adelphi University
  • 1989 Volunteered as a DJ at KCSB, Santa Barbara, was fired, show dismissed.
  • 1990'ish - got another job at WVNN, Alabama
  • proceeded to talk on the radio ...

Why does this matter? - because it shows that Hannity doesn't matter. Any more than the 12 of us in this thread. - He is alive and has a mouth, are his accomplishments and skills, Yet his thoughts and opinions are played across the loudspeakers of the camp.

[–] Asafum@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Why does this matter? - because it shows that Hannity doesn’t matter

While I understand what you're saying, Hannity absolutely matters because millions of people listen to his bullshit. His past doesn't matter as he is a powerful propagandist now.

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[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 30 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

As an non-American who was baptised Catholic and observing US politics, I've always wondered how could the mostly Protestant, Christian nationalists would work with Catholics. Well, here goes my answer.

Also, I am seeing a repeat of history here. The German Catholics opposed Hitler while it is the Protestants who supported him. Oh how history circles back!

[–] backalleycoyote@lemmy.today 18 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

As an American raised by evangelical nationalists, I always knew it would go down like this. There’s enough tolerance to function in day to day life but the behind closed doors contempt and downright hate, not for the theology or the scandals that come up, but the plain hate for people being different was instilled almost daily. They’d accept a kindness from a Catholic or Mormon neighbor, smile to their face, then talk shit as soon as they left. The entitlement and sense of superiority while simultaneously being victims is phenomenal. The more they realize they don’t need to rely on a broad idea of “Christianity” to further their agenda the more they’ll turn on every sect that doesn’t fit their idea of “Christianity”. I hope the Mormons are taking notes about the cost of hitching wagons with the evangelicals, cus they really hate you guys.

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[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 30 points 3 weeks ago (11 children)

I wonder if gaslighting religion is going to work on the MAGA base, they have to go against what they were taught their whole life now, a really test of the cult loyalty.

[–] FrChazzz@lemmus.org 19 points 3 weeks ago

Well, I'd argue that most of MAGA is evangelical, who tend to view Catholicism as either "fake Christianity" or a kind of quaint remnant of an older time that Protestantism fixed (and evangelicalism perfected). So most of them are already on board with the idea that the Pope is bad.

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[–] llamatron@lemmy.world 29 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

True meaning being what? Might is right? Greed is good? Racism is super cool? Ignorance is knowledge?

[–] Wild_Mastic@lemmy.world 23 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

More like War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, and Ignorance is Strength.

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[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 26 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

They're laying the ground work to officially start their own religion.

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[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 25 points 3 weeks ago

My new favorite passage " And then, one Thursday, nearly two thousand years after one man had been nailed to a tree for saying how great it would be to be nice to people for a change, a girl sitting on her own in a small café in Rickmansworth suddenly realized what it was that had been going wrong all this time, and she finally knew how the world could be made a good and happy place. This time it was right, it would work, and no one would have to get nailed to anything.

Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy (Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, #1) "

[–] Avicenna@programming.dev 24 points 2 weeks ago

President is right Tolkien knows nothing about Middle Earth.

[–] 52fighters@sopuli.xyz 23 points 2 weeks ago

Hanity left the Catholic Church when he was having sexual affairs and wanted to divorce his wife.

That's the reason. His excuse came later.

[–] brownsugga@lemmy.world 21 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Not saying the pope is perfect or anything, lotta baggage over there, but Trump is feeling pretty anti-Christy

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[–] LoafedBurrito@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

We just need to come out and say it. These MAGA are all mentally ill and they need help immediately.

There is no other logical explanation for their actions.

[–] smeenz@lemmy.nz 18 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Is cult mentality. They would rather cling to even the most ridiculous ideas than admit to themselves that they were duped by an obvious conman

[–] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 3 weeks ago

Proof the cult leaders don't give a rats ass about religion or faith, they're just tools to manipulate the masses.

As soon as someone with more credibility questions them, they move their goalposts to compensate.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago

The Christian Nationalist shit for brains are making an attempt to teach religion to Pope Leo. GTFO and these clowns are identical to the Kremlin backed Orthodox lunatics who preach the Ukraine invasion is correct.

[–] Doom@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago

You'all the number of times this administration has me fucking defending shitheads organizations because our idiots in charge are wrong, dumb, and morally off in BFE is too damn high.

[–] Someplaceunknown@leminal.space 17 points 3 weeks ago

He's The Fucking Pope, that's like, his whole thing

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 16 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

They are already positioning Trump for a religious re-brand when he's out after 2028. He will be the competition for the Pope in the MAGA religion. It's going to be the hottest, richest, most popular religion in the Universe, and Trump is your direct messenger to God.

They were hitting it HARD during the Biden administration, but the media wasn't covering it, of course. They quieted it down a bit when he got re-elected, but now that things are going even worse than predicted, they are ramping up the religious rhetoric again - "You better not mess with Trump, he knows Jesus and God personally."

They probably think that Americans won't have the stomach for prosecuting a genuine religious prophet. Yeah? Watch me.

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[–] ecvanalog@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

But it’s not a cult, guys.

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