Not sure what you mean. Been running Wayland for years with little to no problems. No desktop environment though
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Yeah good for yoy, but my 50 year old mum needs a desktop environment
I get that. Surely there's bugs. I just wanted to add the perspective since you painted a picture of a broken technology. I'd talk to your distro's maintainers if they are rolling out unstable stuff
Sounds like GNOME pisses you off. Try a window manager/compositor that is not designed by lunatics who think the OK/Cancel buttons should be at the top of the window when everything else reads left-to-right/top-to-bottom, and that every application should provide its own window decorations so every application looks wildly different. Maybe you would prefer https://kde.org/plasma-desktop/
Also, X11 is decades of half-baked garbage hacks piled on top of half-baked garbage. Wayland fixes real problems.
I like XFCE but the support of high dpi screens is lacking; and the overall consistency bugs are annoying too (like scroll direction is broken)
I decided to try Wayland a year or so ago. I never used X11 again. I use hyprland and niri with no issues
Depending on the "old" definition, but yes will continue to do so!
report the bugs so they can be fixed.
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breaks constantly
What do you mean by this?
I don't think I've ever had an entire desktop environment break.
It hangs completely, and forces a hard reboot. I can focus to different windows, but cannot dismiss the "tab-switcher" window. So I can't launch any other window; and cannot click the content of any existing window
I am SO with you! Wayland is just not feature complete at all and everyone is acting like it is.
I just updated my steamdeck to the most recent version which switched to wayland by default and guess what? Remote play was busted in desktop mode, which I use all the time, awesome. Thankfully they still let you switch back to X11 for desktop mode.
OBS window capture does not work for certain window types in wayland, I tried every method available, this bit me to so hard to had to do an emergency rollback to an out of life version of an OS on my OBS machine because it was a majorly breaking change.
You can't ssh in and run something on the desktop, like I tried to ssh into my desktop and start moonlight (because there are no good remote desktop solutions still) but apparently there is NO WAY AT ALL to run something as my user, on my desktop, from an external SSH session, nothing like setting your DISPLAY variable and allowing access via xhost. I had to walk over to my desktop and manually start it, it felt like going back to the stone age. What if I wasn't home? I would be unable to access my desktop UI at all without driving to my house and manually touching physical things, this is a wild regression to me.
The lack of good remote desktop is still an issue, but to be fair that's plagued linux for a while, it just mostly seems wildly inconsistent now with what will or will not work.
I guess X11 forwarding has been band-aided with waypipe, which is good, though I've not used it much yet so I don't know how well or not it actually works in real world use.
Someone please tell me I'm wrong about this and explain what I don't know, but every time I've asked about this stuff in various places I get radio silence.
I've had success with wayvnc, but that's because I use wlroots based wayland compositors. It doesn't work for GNOME or KDE.
I suppose there's nothing to stop someone from having multiple compositors installed to the same host. One for meatspace interaction, and a wlroots based compositor for remote access.
Thank you for the response and information. Unfortunately I'm my advancing years I've found I actually kinda like KDE now.. so I've been using that. But that is certainly something I can play with to see if I can get it working.
I use mint. I think Wayland is available, but I’ve just never switched to it. And to be honest, I’m not even sure if Wayland is actually available on mint. My point is this I don’t think anybody is forcing anybody to switch? Or any other distro’s actually forcing it
Fedora ships by default with GNOME, which by default ships with Wayland
Yeah, there's a lot that doesn't work for me, unfortunately.
Yeah I remember having x11 and zero problems, but I have to say that on KDE I don't have anymore Wayland issues nowadays.
It was ridiculous finding the Linux experience better 5 years ago than last year (thanks also to nvidia writing shit drivers)