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[–] TryingToBeGood@reddthat.com 151 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Good lord, what’s wrong with the other two?

[–] oce@jlai.lu 28 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

They over-consumed the goods from those countries and they lost their minds.

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[–] IratePirate@feddit.org 68 points 1 week ago (1 children)

To be fair, I don't trust European companies with it either. As the saying goes: "Where there's a trough, there will be pigs." Want to keep your data safe? Keep it.

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes, bit wary of these current trends that try to paint Europe as this holier than thou place where everyone only thinks about the polar bears and UBI, when the truth is we have plenty of capitalist sharks in our ranks that would be happy burning it all down for the next quarterly results.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (4 children)

To be fair, we have the GDPR in Europe, which puts people at ease. However, this could be weakened or rid of entirely in order for the EU to become more "competitive" some day. Even the climate change goals of the EU has already been weakened so that we could catch up to the AI race. As sad as it is, it's just the realpolitik influencing decisions.

[–] Tiresia@slrpnk.net 20 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The EU keeps coming within inches of voting for making secure encryption impossible. Chat Control would have been worse for privacy than anything the US has.

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[–] chunes@lemmy.world 49 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (11 children)

Don't kid yourselves. Once Europe develops its own big tech, it's going to be just as untrustworthy. But at least it will be your untrustworthy.

[–] mcv@lemmy.zip 25 points 1 week ago (5 children)

For now, the EU has strong data protection laws that the US and China don't have. Although it is true that stupid ideas like Chat Control keep popping up every couple of years.

Ideally, though, you put them in countries close to the EU but not part of it, like Switzerland.

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[–] favoredponcho@lemmy.zip 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It’s the EU trying to read everyone’s chat messages because .001% of the population might use the technology for sending CSAM.

[–] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 week ago

It’s the EU trying to read everyone’s chat messages because .001% of the population might use the technology for sending CSAM.

That's only the excuse the politicians are using. In reality there's a combination of intelligence services and datamining operations pushing for scanning ordinary law-abiding citizens communications.

[–] nasi_goreng@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 week ago

Europe tech often times are open source with commercial service.

At least it's better than whatever Google, Microsoft, or Tencent.

[–] TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I honestly feel safer with my data in a foreign authorities hands than domestic.

China can't do dick to me nor should they want to. I'm just a lil guy! The US does nasty things to its citizens on the reg, I don't wanna be caught up in that!

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[–] shirasho@feddit.online 48 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I live in the US and I dont trust US companies with my data either. They either sell it or are handled by easily exploitable systems developed offshore in India.

So, in that sense I do not trust the US, China, India, or Russia with my data and avoid software developed in any of these places when feasibly possible.

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[–] quack@lemmy.zip 45 points 1 week ago (5 children)

If we’re being real I don’t really trust anyone with my data.

[–] Rooster326@programming.dev 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Don't trust anyone, not even yourself.

Full time ass job to keep up with every single security bulletin.

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[–] MilitantAtheist@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Joke is on you, I trust no one with my data.

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[–] GargleBlaster@feddit.org 31 points 1 week ago

I don't trust politico with my news articles

[–] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 31 points 1 week ago (2 children)

As an American, I also don’t trust the US firms with my data.

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[–] Wilco@lemmy.zip 29 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I dont trust the US with my data ... or anything. This place is run by literal idiots and/or criminals.

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[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 25 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'm American and don't trust U.S. firms with data.

To be clear, I also don't trust Chinese firms.

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[–] Today@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

4/5 of the people i know in the US don't trust the US.

[–] tyler@programming.dev 10 points 1 week ago (3 children)

You can make that 6/7 (my wife and I).

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[–] Kkk2237pl@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (4 children)

But > 9/10 Europeans use whastapp / messenger for daily basis.

9/10 european companies decide to use Aws, azure or gcp, instructions of Scaleway or ovh.

9/10 europeans use Chatgpt or Claude instead of mistral or Lumo

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[–] innermachine@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Lol who trusts any firm with their data?

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[–] Hakuso@scribe.disroot.org 15 points 1 week ago

Watching all the new laws spew out in Europe I don't trust them, either.

I'm down to Romania and Iceland, now.

Been dumping German stuff like a plague lately, and already pulled all data out of Canada.

I have one thing in Amsterdam, but their laws have been getting worse and worse, and they're... Nine, I think it is, eyes which is bad for trusting them with your data. Even Switzerland is getting sus af.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

good, I don't either and I live here.

[–] VoodooAardvark@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 week ago

At this point how does anyone trust anyone with their data?

[–] magnue@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'm currently in the process of degoogling. There's a lot to consider.

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[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

American here, I don't trust US firms with data

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[–] dasrael@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Seems like 2 out of 10 Europeans need to get their head checked.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 week ago

I don't trust any firm

[–] Blander_Rurton@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Why on earth would we!? China especially don't have the best track record, and the US is the laughing stock of the world at this point, not to trusted with anything.

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[–] Brummbaer@pawb.social 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The Chinese can do less harm with my data than the US and it's allies.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (10 children)

For now.

The problem is that once it's out there, you can't take it back.

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[–] null@lemmy.org 11 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I don't even trust my own PC with my data.

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[–] febra@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

I despise the US from the bottom of my heart, and I am a big China fan, and yet at the same time I don't want anyone to handle our data. We need data sovereignty. Our data stays here and that's it. Not in the US. Not in China. Not anywhere else.

[–] utopiah@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

How many of those 8 are doing anything, ANYTHING, about it though?

I only trust math with my data (i.e. encryption...)

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