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[–] slevinkelevra@sh.itjust.works 58 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

8.199$/gallon, that's 1.846 €/Liter Diesel. Meanwhile in Germany I had to fill up at 2.389 €/Liter, at times it's over 2.50

[–] protogen420@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

brazil here, diesel is 6.49 BRL per liter here, that's less than an euro, turns out all that sugar cane ethanol did help with something0

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[–] CorrectAlias@piefed.blahaj.zone 45 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sucks that the US is so car-centric. If there was actual public transit (especially of the electric variety), people would struggle a little less.

[–] ramble81@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago

The same thing happened during the pandemic. Cities are built with large zoned swaths for residential, business and commercial all divided. When you can get around easy, that can work. But then suddenly with the WFH shift, entire sections were greatly impacted (such as restaurants in business districts).

On the other hand, Asian and European cities that have dense mixed use zoning fared much better because the restaurants could serve people regardless if they were wfh or at an office.

[–] ZoteTheMighty@lemmy.zip 27 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Honestly, I can't be bothered to get that worked up about gas. I've exclusively bought hybrids for like a decade now, and I've moved to areas that are close to work and anything else I want to go to. I fill up less than once a month. If gas is "really high", it might break $40 for a fill up, which is less than I'd spend at a cheap restaurant if I got an appetizer and two entrees. It's literally a rounding error on my monthly budget, so even if it was $20/gallon, I would be unfazed.

[–] doubletwist@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago

We went all EV last year, and it's been great to not care about the price of gas at the pump.

The real problem though, is all the other things you buy like clothes and groceries, etc. are impacted by the price of gas and oil used to create it and ship it around. You may not notice the price directly in fueling you car, but eventually, you will be paying dearly because of those high gas prices.

[–] favoredponcho@lemmy.zip 25 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Same boat. Gas prices mostly hit people driving gas guzzlers hardest, and that's actually a good thing. Maybe you shouldn't drive a "non-passenger work vehicle" that exists purely in a loophole carved out by car manufacturers to avoid fuel efficiency standards as your primary personal vehicle.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

US car manufacturers were incentivized to do that and to push for policy and marketing that encourages pickup ownership because pickups have had a protective tariff, making them more profitable than other types of vehicles.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_tax

The Chicken Tax is a 25 percent tariff on light trucks (and originally on potato starch, dextrin, and brandy) imposed in 1964 by the United States under President Lyndon B. Johnson in response to tariffs placed by France and West Germany on importation of U.S. chicken.[1] The period from 1961 to 1964[2] of tensions and negotiations surrounding the issue was known as the "Chicken War", taking place at the height of Cold War politics.[3]

Eventually, the tariffs on potato starch, dextrin, and brandy were lifted,[4] but since 1964 this form of protectionism has remained in place to give US domestic automakers an advantage over imported competitors.[5] Though concern remains about its repeal,[6][7] a 2003 Cato Institute study called the tariff "a policy in search of a rationale."[4]

https://www.slashgear.com/1809287/chicken-tax-explained-history-current-impact/

If you're an automaker, you want to market those protected vehicles to consumers, because it's more-profitable. You don't really have to compete with foreign-made autos in that particular class.

And you want to lobby for policy that encourages consumers to buy them. So, for example, the US has more-stringent towing standards than does Europe. You need a bigger vehicle to tow a given amount of weight...which encourages buying pickups. And the US has emissions standards that give special preference to large vehicles.

https://newrepublic.com/article/180263/epa-tailpipe-emissions-loophole

While the new emissions rules have been praised in most coverage for tightening standards and thus speeding the transition to electric vehicles, they also preserve long-standing special treatment for big trucks and SUVs, which exempt larger cars from more stringent emissions standards. The EPA has made a little-noticed attempt in the rule to keep companies from exploiting the sorts of loopholes they have in the past, but industry giveaways that were added into the final rule could undermine their ability to reduce emissions. When the rules take effect, for instance, starting with cars in the 2027 model year, Ford Super Duty pickups will reportedly be able to emit more than three times as much carbon dioxide as light-duty pickups like the still very large Ford F-150, and nearly four times as much as a passenger car.

“The biggest pickup trucks are allowed very gentle treatment. If you create a loophole, that’s what they will drive through,” Dan Becker, director of the Center for Biological Diversity’s Safe Climate Transport campaign, says of the new rules. “Vehicles are getting larger and larger because the larger the vehicle, the weaker the standard.”

[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (6 children)

I also don’t sweat gas prices but it affects a lot of people disproportionately. A lot of low income earners have to drive a lot, either because of the job or because they can’t live closer to where they work. It’s not like they charge a fuel surcharge for lawn care for example.

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Still dirt cheap when compared to prices here. I have no ideas what you 'mericans whine about.

[–] CorrectAlias@piefed.blahaj.zone 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Does your country have a working public transit system?

[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well, it's also 87 octane.

Where I live it's $6.50 a gallon, but for 95 octane, which I don't think you can even get in the US.

[–] xthexder@l.sw0.com 16 points 1 week ago (8 children)

You're probably thinking of 95 RON gasoline, but US pumps advertise gasoline in AKI. 95 RON is equivalent to 91 AKI, which is what they're selling as "Supreme" in the OP photo.

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[–] obinice@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I don't have any context for whether this is expensive or not, but....

You're charged LESS for fuel if you let them wash your car? ...what?

[–] OR3X@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

The car wash is an additional cost not listed.

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 week ago

The gas station has far higher marginal profit on a car wash than on gas. Also, most of the time you don't even break even on the supposed savings.

It's a trick to get people to spend more money in a way that is more advantageous for the gas station owner.

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago

because the other two comments didn't make it entirely clear if you have no idea what this is about: the pump will ask you if you want to buy a car wash ticket as well. if you say yes, you get the lower fuel price

[–] Lanske@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (3 children)
[–] Marthirial@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I remember the MAGA trash putting stickers of Joe Biden on gas pumps when it was $2.60 a gallon. Scum pretty silent now.

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So, so great. Thanks for asking

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[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Is this some kind of empirical joke I’m too metric to understand?

I kid, I’m Canadian so I know off the top of my head a gallon is 3.81 litres.

[–] Deme@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

*Imperial

Empiricism is a different thing entirely

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

US gallon is 3.8l, Imperial gallon is 4.54l.

A superior measurement system uses the same term for two different amounts of something.

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[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 week ago

Laughs in EV.

So glad I bought a cheap used one in February.

[–] cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

FYI: At many of these stations (they make the same offer all over), you can just ignore the car wash price. First of all, the cost of the car wash is going to make the bill higher regardless. You won't save enough on most vehicles to offset the price of the wash. At best, you have a gas guzzling van you filled up, and broke even... on getting your van wet. Those automated car wash garages aren't actually washing shit. They'll get some stuff off, but they won't get most of it. And for most drivers, you'll actually spend more money that way.

Another scam stations run is a "cash price." It's fine if you bring the cash, but if you don't, they have an ATM that will charge you $5 to get the cash out, so you're not actually saving money and for some drivers, you're paying more and wasting your time. But if you know about how much gas you need and can do the math, or you just carry that much cash on the regular, it's not so much of a scam.

But here's the thing: on sites like GasBuddy, they're going to list the cash price or the car wash price, not the actual price. They don't have to stipulate that you have to spend money and/or time to get those prices. Your best bet is to simply not patronise stations that engage in deceptive pricing, even if it means spending a bit more per gallon down the street.

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[–] hardcoreufo@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I love to see it because all the idiots in their gas guzzling, coal rolling trucks get hit way harder than I do.

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[–] dalekirkwood@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (9 children)

Finally, Americans see what Europeans live with.

Enjoy your Kia Piccantos 🤣

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[–] kokesh@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

This is exactly the point of any war for the US. Secure cheap oil. Hence the terror around the world. I hope Iran kicks tRump's ass. Or someone assassinates that fuck.

[–] snugglesthefalse@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago (4 children)

619 dollars for one oil? I'm guessing it's 6.19/l (or maybe even gallon? Who knows with these) but wow these are awkward to read.

[–] aarch64@programming.dev 4 points 1 week ago

Gas prices in the US are in $/gal, so $6.19 per gallon. Some signs just don't include the decimal.

I understand your confusion... I went to Canada for the first time recently and their prices are cents per liter, but (much like American prices) that's not actually indicated anywhere.

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[–] Vinylraupe@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I always pump for 20 Swiss francs so i dont care.

[–] bridgeburner@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Until ur car runs out of gas one time when driving to work, cos 20 bucks doesn't give u enough gas anymore to drive this far.

[–] vivalapivo@lemmy.today 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Where are my buddies: coal rollers? What happened to them?

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[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago

wow, that's actually more than here in Ontario after converting currency and volume units. $2.30 vs $1.60 when I filled up on the weekend

still quite cheap in the grand scheme of things for what it is

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

I grew up in CA and left 35 years ago.

I miss easy access to the beach and mountains, but putting up with the high prices and people just wasn't worth it.

[–] perishthethought@piefed.social 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

We're paying $3.99 where I live. The extra in California is all taxes, yes?

[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Not all but a lot. It also is blended differently to pollute less, so it costs more. Importing oil from other states to be refined is also more difficult.

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[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

without getting into too much detail, there are three separate oil markets in the united states. california has its own. it's not california taxes, it has its own separate refinery and crude intake system with its own problem dealing with futures speculation.

[–] Asfalttikyntaja@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 week ago

Oh, I wish we could have that cheap gas here, you lucky bastards.

[–] fenrasulfr@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (3 children)

We are currently dealing with 10 dollars the gallon in Europe so you have a little bit still to go. I can't imagine the mess this is making in countries that do not have the US or EU purchasing power.

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