I think this article forgets how Trump effectively surrendered Afghanistan to the Taliban the last time around.
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Also, calling Iraq a win is really stretching things.
Unless you consider how beneficial these wars were for the Israel first politicians and lobbies
Also Afghanistan. Also Vietnam.
The headline said "since Nixon." The US lost the Vietnam war while Tricky Dick was president.
Most people seem to have decided that one is on Biden for some reason, including Biden.
Which is really weird considering wasn't he literally following the timeline Trump set out? A timeline that was almost certainly concocted to screw over the Democrat if Trump lost and that Trump wouldn't have actually stuck to if he won?
Trump wouldn't have actually stuck to if he won?
Funny how you say that..
It is on Biden, he didn't have to stick to Trump's controversial deal with the Taliban, he could have had a spine and given a statement about how he supports bringing the troops home but that leaving Afghanistan in the hands of the Taliban will only put them at more risk in the future and how Trump made a fool of us by dealing with them. But no, every liberal has to treat Biden like he has no agency, like he didn't continue negotiating with the Taliban and eventually gave the final withdrawl orders leaving locals who helped the US to fend for themselves.
He's never been anything but a silver spoon total loser. He's not even a skilled criminal. Fucking bush league in every measure.
He expected to lose the first election. He wanted to be able to use it as proof that the system was against him, to fire up the Fox News rubes and jumpstart his new TV network. He basically wanted to lose, and instead he won.
It's amazing. He's such a failure he failed at failing.
That's an insult to Bushes and shrubbery.
Nixon had the decency to resign, Trump will drive us all 6ft under without any hesitation.
Nixon was not decent. The difference was that a Senator (Goldwater) told Nixon point blank that he was getting impeached and the senate had the votes to convict and remove.
Like most government officials "retirement" is getting fired.
I'm pretty sure Trump would give the order to launch the nukes and kill us all in that situation.
That's why he's firing the top military people. They won't follow illegal (and reprehensible) orders, so he knows they won't bomb blue states.
They also didn't have Faux "News", hate radio, or the Internet back then, either.
What's so fucked up is that POS of a FCC chairman just celebrated making it even worse than it already was for truth.
I genuinely think he's by far the most likely president in this country's history to launch ICBMs if he knows he is fucked. Which was a conclusion myself and any non-moron also came to in 2015.
a) This headline forgets W losing Afghanistan
b) Fuck Nixon, but Eisenhower deserves the blame for Vietnam (admittedly one of the reasons he did that was because he thought it would give him political cover to shut McCarthyism down, but still)
Also Trump losing Afghanistan
Nixon continuing horrible foreign policy doesn't absolve him. Also he conspired with Hanoi to sabotage LBJ which is straight up treason and extended the war another five years
admittedly one of the reasons he did that was because he thought it would give him political cover to shut McCarthyism down
I want to learn more about that. Got a recommendation?
In Afghanistan, Trump unconditionally surrendered to the Taliban, but left Biden to complete the withdrawal. Before that, Iraq was either a loss or a stalemate, depending on what the poorly articulated objectives actually were.
You yanks REALLY need to lose this one. Your noses need to be rubbed in it. You need to feel the SHIT you put the rest of us though. And you need to get seriously angry at the Israelis and rub THEIR noses in it. You need a big enough shock to CHANGE.
(Like I know most of the people on Lemmy are not Republican idiots. I'm obviously not talking about you personally, but about the «general public opinion» in the US, especially the Republican idiots.)
In America, we punish the incumbents. BoTh PaRtIeS have told their own constituents to fuck off; membership of registered voters is at 30% each. Independents are now 40% of voters.
Whoever wins the election tells the people who elected them to fuck off; so, we vote them out. That's it. The new election winner then tells the people who elected them to fuck off, and so on.
Examples: Biden runs with minimum wage increase as platform, wins, then tells everybody to fuck off.
Trump then runs with "no war" as platform; wins, goes to war and tells his voters to fuck off.
He will be replaced by a Democrat, who will then also tell their voters to fuck off.
Repeat ad nauseam. Neither party does what they are elected to do and are then punished, to be replaced by the other party that will refuse to do what they were elected to do.
We can't vote ourselves out of this, unfortunately.
He will be replaced by a Democrat, who will then also tell their voters to fuck off.
The real political innovation here is that the Democratic party is telling its voters to fuck off before the next election.
They don't care. It's a video game to most Americans. That's what having oceans between you and the bombs does.
Every $10 increase in crude translates to roughly 24 cents per gallon at the pump. So we're looking at 25 to 45 cents per gallon — baked in, structural, not going away when the war ends, not going away when the headlines fade, not going away ever.
Can we stop with this narrative that this is somehow a bad thing?
The price of oil has been too low. calculate the cost if externalities, and the price should be close to infinity.
Just stop oil.

Food prices are still tied to fossil fuel prices. This will cause a lot of very real pain, among the poorest in the world.
So yes, we need to get to net zero carbon. But there has to be a more humane way than unplanned cold turkey.
What? Pretty sure Afghanistan was lost too?? Or are we using strategic ambiguity in new ways?
The way I interpret this is single-handedly lost the war. Afghanistan was over 4 presidents (Bush, Obama, Trump, and Biden). The sloppy withdrawal by Biden was die to no planning and a treaty signed by Trump to do so by 2/29/2020.
Trump is the one who unconditionally surrendered Afghanistan. It's on him.
If that's the case, then Nixon didn't single handily lose the Vietnam War either.
But let's be real. The Democrat president who inherits this war in 2028 will be the one blamed for loosing it.
No one wins when people start shooting at each other. There are only different degrees of losing. There is no glory in war, only suffering of the poor for the rich.
Has America actually ever won a war since Gulf War 1?
I would amend that to "since WWII", and the answer would still be no.

The "global war on terror" ended with a rather dramatic raid that killed bin laden. And the war part of Gulf war 2 was an obvious victory.
But winning a peace is a fuckton harder. And we haven't done that since Vietnam.
While somehow Biden get's blamed for the fiasco, Trump did order the full withdrawal of US troops from Afghanistan, essentially a surrender to the Taliban, though he did keep their US bank account held treasury.
No one's done that since Nixon? Would you call Afghanistan a victory? Although that was also Trump.
Name one we have won since WWII?
That really comes down to what you mean by "war" and "won".
We won the Korean war by achieving our strategic objectives- we bombed NK back to the stone age, and effectively isolated them from the rest of the world.
Our wars in Central America achieved their objectives- US trained death squads raped and murdered the local populations into submission; US corporations have been free to dominate ever since.
On the list of 80+ countries we have invaded since WWII, I would say well over half of these misadventures have achieved their strategic objectives.
Hows our "Project for a new American century" coming along? Seems it wasnt as easy as just writing down all the things we lusted after and grabbing them via pure hubris.
It's not that he lost... it's not that he started it because putin told him to... it's not even that his moron running the "war department" is an alcohol addled butt sucking asshole...
It's because of all the goddam taxpayer money he threw DOWN THE FUCKING COMMODE on the death merchants. What? Did Raytheon need to clear out some old inventory?
Putin didn't get him to start, it was Bibi.
My dear - putin is behind 97% of the geopolitical upheaval occurring on this planet at this time. It's his life's work. And it's j.u.s.t. within his grasp.
Nutty yahoo is just another fascist shitbag amongst a whole crop of fascist shitbags taking over countries.
Russia and Iran are allies and trading partners. No reason for Russia to encourage a war with Iran.
This is all the Zionist war criminal's fault.