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[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 274 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

Science is only political because scientists have to continuously convince politicians reality exists.

It's frustrating that something like climate change is even a political discussion at all. Don't Look Up captured that frustration really well.

[–] Tiresia@slrpnk.net 46 points 2 weeks ago (14 children)

Convincing people your interpretation of reality exists is literally all that politics is.

Unfortunately, despite being correct, science is also an interpretation of reality.

[–] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 weeks ago

Convincing people your interpretation of reality exists is literally all that politics is.

What? No. No, no, you naive fool... many politicians, if not most, don't believe most of what they're selling, and don't give a flying fuck about it.

They'll sell whatever line the party they're working for wants them to sell, and they'd just as happily sell the opposition party's line if it paid better and they could switch without being called a turncoat.

Also, it's not about convincing people about specific beliefs; most people are mostly already convinced of their worldviews and if they change them it won't be because of some politician. It's about convincing them, despite all evidence to the contrary, that the politician shares those beliefs, and will impose them on people who don't if they vote for them.

despite being correct, science is also an interpretation of reality.

Again, no. Science (except for mathematics, but that's it's own thing) doesn't and shouldn't ever claim to be correct.

It's the most accurate approximation we have so far of how nature works, but it's constantly trying to achieve better approximations, and will happily throw away the old ones when it finds a better one.

It also should always make very clear that it's an approximation or a description, not an interpretation. Science should always be objective, never subjective, and interpretations are by definition subjective.

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[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 15 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

You can invent a vaccine, but getting people to take it is a different matter entirely and not just because of politicians.

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[–] officermike@lemmy.world 156 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

doesn't harm organic tissue

Which is totally why Bayer has settled their lawsuit for several billions of dollars over claims that it causes lymphoma.

Edit: also, plants are organic tissue.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 38 points 2 weeks ago

Also, the stomach's microbiome isn't plants...

[–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 126 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Your stomach microbiome is plants

Which is why I spend a solid 3 hours a day facing the sun with my mouth held wide open. Gotta let my tummy plants photosynthesize somehow.

[–] Canonical_Warlock@lemmy.dbzer0.com 55 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You say that as a joke but I'm pretty sure this clown is also one of the quacks who regularly talked about the "health benefits" of butthole tanning.

I once saw him (in person) give a drunken, sloppy, rambling speech to a bunch of high schoolers back in 1999. Calling him a clown is an insult to clowns.

[–] favoredponcho@lemmy.zip 99 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

Bacteria is not in the kingdom plantae.

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 42 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Your stomach micro biome is plants.

[–] favoredponcho@lemmy.zip 30 points 2 weeks ago (13 children)

That’s interesting. I wonder where the sunlight gets in to my stomach for all those plants to photosynthesize.

[–] johsny@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Rfk seems to think the sun shines out his asshole.

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[–] fushuan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Funny that in Spanish it's called "flora intestinal", not "fauna intestinal". Always though that it's a but of a misnomer.

[–] some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Intestinal flora is a common phrase in English, too. Or "gut flora". It's one of those old 19th century scientific phrases which has stuck around.

Like this, err, gentleman (who apparently wants to drag us back to that past) we used to believe gut bacteria to be plant-based. Science caught up, but the term has had sticking power. It seems to be a favorite of marketers of probiotic supplements.

"Microbiota" or just the straightforward "gut bacteria" would be more accurate and modern. But of course, everyone except for this guy already knows that.

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[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 81 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

Sometimes I have this weird theory that RFK Jr is really like a Dr. Zoidberg type alien in a skin suit. He just kind of guesses at how human anatomy works because he isn't human himself and isn't professional enough to get a real education on the subject.

[–] Juice@midwest.social 35 points 2 weeks ago

"I took the liberty of fertilizing your caviar"

-- RFK jr

[–] VoteNixon2016@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

At least Zoidberg means well, RFK Jr. has more in common with the brain slugs or the gas station egg salad sandwiches

[–] rockerface@lemmy.cafe 12 points 2 weeks ago

If it's his brain worms speaking, that would explain a lot.

[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

It’s hard to say what’s more farfetched, that he is a Zoidbergian alien, or that The Kennedys were just raised that far from any level of anything resembling actual human reality?

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[–] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 81 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] judgyweevil@feddit.it 48 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

He contradicts himself even in his own wacky theories

[–] Goodeye8@piefed.social 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Considering wacky theories have a tendency to contradict each other (and itself) it would be far more impressive if his wacky theories weren't contradictory.

[–] Loce@lemmy.world 39 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

One with frontotemporal dementia that has rapidly shrinking brain, the other one with half a brain eaten by the worm... in what fucking timeline do we live... feels like Rick and Morty episode... fuck. me.

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[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 37 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

" it is unequivocal that exposure to glyphosate produces important alterations in the structure and function of the nervous system of humans, rodents, fish, and invertebrates."

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35562999/

[–] melfie@lemmy.zip 13 points 2 weeks ago

Glyphosate has also been linked to gluten intolerance: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3945755/

Maybe at some point, all the “gluten free” products will switch to “glyphosate free”. Until then, I’ve been buying imported flour from Italy, where its use is significantly more regulated than here in the US, although not entirely banned.

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[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 36 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Everything is political, and there has never been a time that proves that better than now.

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[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 33 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I can't tell if this is supposed to be for or against glyphosate?

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 24 points 2 weeks ago

Depends who is making money.

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

He seems to be.... pro-celiac?

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[–] YoiksAndAway@piefed.zip 32 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I remember that when Roundup first came out, glyphosate was being held up as a brilliant example of herbicide design since it inhibits a vital metabolic pathway in plants that animals don't have. They even claimed that the surfactants in Roundup were more harmful than the glyphosate itself. I guess that claim didn't hold up too well.

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[–] yesman@lemmy.world 32 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Of course science is political. Knowledge is power and all power systems are political.

But ignoring philosophy, Science is a charity. By in large they must beg for their money. You don't suppose that the people providing the money have any influence?

And I'm not talking about junk science, biased studies, or even fraud. A perfectly run study may still be political simply because it was chosen for funding over something else.

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] L7HM77@sh.itjust.works 26 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Awfully big words, for someone who doesn't believe in germ theory.

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[–] glorkon@lemmy.world 26 points 2 weeks ago

As if denying millions of Americans access to proper healthcare wasn't enough, they appointed an anti-science, anti-vaxx idiot as if to make sure even more harm would be inflicted on them.

[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago

Sounds legit. Where do I sign up for my glyphosate injections?

[–] xep@discuss.online 23 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (6 children)

What I think he's trying to say is that Glyphosate affects the shikimate pathway, which is a biological pathway in plants. This doesn't exist in human cells, but it does exist in our gut microbiota.

We also know now that Glyphosate is a glycine analogue and can displace glycine anywhere in protein synthesis, with unknown effects. It's also likely an endocrine disrupter.

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[–] Filiforme@lemmy.ca 16 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Ofc the digestive flora is plants. Man the level of stupidity. Just as dumb as the orange dumbass talking about asylum seekers being release from mental asylums... What a time to be alive.

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[–] DarkSideOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago
[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

RFK has never been about science.

He was a paid antivax advocate, for money, now he's a paid glyphosate advocate, again for money.

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[–] GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago

Someone should.

[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 weeks ago

Ah yes, he's on the show with the very tall and smart scientist Dr Rogan /s

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