I have always heard politicians talking about oil in the context of "national security". "We need oil to be secure". It's incredible to me how infrequently I've heard people talk about how dependence on fossil fuels is the security threat. If we had a majority-renewable energy economy right now, most Americans still wouldn't be able to find the Strait of Hormuz on a map.
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O&G sales people always say we need them and we can't live without them and they're the reason anything exists and they prevent the middles ages and they're so important we owe them our lives and so on. All they really want if for you to pay them forever. It's our job to increase our quality of life while phasing them out gradually (energy transition).
It's because those words were sponsored by oil lobbyists and their offshoots. So much of the economy is based on it that it might actually be accurate (not that I think it should be perpetuated even if it would be painful to truly move on from oil).
That's radical lefty stuff. You see people like Rep. Sean Casten talking that way but not anybody who wants to be seen as "moderate."
Reduce your O&G dependency: get your local companies to use EV delivery trucks.
So let's see, the biggest winners of the war so far are Russia and Tesla.
Who saw that coming?
The US oil industry is doing really well as a result too — at least the owners are anyways.
Oh yeah, next year, they will announce that they record record profits, and made more money than they ever had in the past, which means they gouged us mercilessly. Then they'll call for layoffs.
I heard someone on one of the political shows this morning, saying that when the oil companies celebrate their profits, we should hit them with a huge windfall tax, and give every American a rebate check. I'm all for that.
Yeah, the oil industry owners are salivating over the potential war profits
Problem is that the Republican party is a patronage machine heavily funded by the billionaires who own the oil industry, so a tax like that won't pass while they hold power
$8.21/gallon for Regular in downtown Los Angeles.: https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/general/drivers-stunned-as-one-los-angeles-gas-station-charges-more-than-8-per-gallon/ar-AA1YCCC5
aaaahhhh... Making America great needs your sacrifice. Would you like to pay with cash, card or home second mortgage?
As someone who paid $1.50 MORE per Gallon this week then last week prices ARENT Soaring because TRUMP Told me they WERENT! STOP believing EVERYTHING you Sheeple!
-Republican Voters!
-unplugs car- “did something….happen?”
Yesterday night we charged our car for the equivalent of 6 cent per kWh.
2 days earlier we charged for free using surplus power from our solar panels.
On average in the winter we can charge during the night for around 15 cent per kWh. from April to September (both months included) we can pretty consistently charge for free from our solar panels in Copenhagen at Latitude 55° North.
If you live further south, you will be able to do even better. All of USA except Alaska has way better conditions for solar power than we do.
$0.40 per kWh here :-/
We also have that in the morning when everybody get up, and then again around dinner time. Prices often even go slightly higher than that in those periods.
Our rates are hourly, so charging the car at night you can generally get power for 15 cent per kWh.
6 cent is very cheap and does not generally occur during winter, but I bet that very soon when the spring gets milder, we will see below 10 cent regularly.
For us solar with battery is brilliant, because even when there is little to no sun at dinner, we have enough on the battery to cover both the expensive periods 6 moths of the year. Most days even when cloudy, we can still make enough to cover the entire 24 hours.
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good thing the rapist pedophile torpedoed EV, solar and all possible renewable energy industries in the USA before destroying oil supply to cover for said raping and pedophile activities
congrats Americans!
Honestly I think the best way to sell Americans on electric is to let BYD enter the market and not tax them to death. Their prices would be very attractive, but they price way lower than just about anyone else. If they offered electric cars to Americans at those prices, it would shake up the industry there — both ICE and electric. Like, the Cybertruck is still gonna be the Cybertruck, nothing else looks like that, but if you want an affordable electric and Chevy, Toyota, Nissan, et al are saying $30-40K and BYD is saying $10-20K... a lot of people are gonna look good and hard at BYD.
Even with tarrifs, BYD would still be cheaper than most ICE cars... the problem is you cant register it legally in the US becuase it doesnt "meet US saftey regulations" but feel free to buy the deathtraps that are Teslas.
That isn't an argument for byd. It's just an argument against teslas and their dumb manual emergency lever design.
Are you really suggesting LOWERING safety standards for byd?
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It's what they voted for, fuck em
The aptera is launching soon after so many goddamn delays and disappointments. It’s looking like trumps bullshit might actually hike the demand so high it can save that project.
Seems second hand EV are now the most affordable cars. Fast depreciation for the win.
Depreciation is fast because ICE dealers jack up EV price to sell ICE instead.
Let's forget, for a moment, about global warming and the environment, and just forget about the fact that EVs are cheaper and better to drive. Let's talk about national security, the economy, and sovereignty. Because we can't have it while we're dependent on other nations for oil. Let's transition to electric vehicles, of all types, and then we don't have to worry about energy anymore. Of course, then we're still dependent on China for batteries but that's a different problem that we can actually solve.
Ironically the reason there’s so much lifepo4 batteries available from china despite the tech being USA invented is that there was a patent on the tech in USA, which is a factor in why nobody developed it, but china being china they didn’t care about the bourgeois patents and built up a huge industry around batteries - and now the patent expired.
And now they are starting mass production of sodium batteries that are not affected by cold, and solid state battery production begins next year.
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War is profitable. You must buy oil so we can continue to justify this horrible profitable thing.
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Fuck those flatfooted eco liberals, I don't want to pay a cent extra for my energy just for sustainability and clean air. Actually I don't want it even if it's cheaper, because it's simply un-American! And also it cost jobs because my delusions say so.
-Republicans
"Hey I know. Let's pay Trump $1B to ban EVs, force everyone to buy ICE cars and gasoline, and then start a war to raise the price of gasoline, so I can make a crazy profit!" - oil tycoons and investors.
America's dependence on cars is the real issue.
There can be more than one real issue. Not all transit is within a city or between cities, and since I need a car to get to the nearest city, I'd greatly prefer one that I can fuel with solar panels.
Nothing could make me buy a car from elon. I wouldn't drive for free.
I wouldn't buy a car from Elon either, fortunately other companies make EVs
Then don't buy from Felonia dickMusk. You've still got Lucid, and various EV models from Toyota, Kia, Hyundai, Honda, Volkswagen, etc.
Toyota and Honda have cancelled EV production.
Honda did (which doesn't surprise me, Honda is an engine company that happens to make cars), Toyota is still in the EV game, and they're dragging Subaru with them into it.
Honda's pulling back because they bet on the USA for launch, but Trump happened, and the Chinese are killing it in every other market, so they're backed in a corner and the marketing people figured it's better to take the L than try and proceed in a hostile market.
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