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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 2 points 26 minutes ago

The problem is that while we understand that vets can have a difficult time, and can use help, we all know that the Trump Administration is not the entity to tackle the issue.

At best, they will make it all about enriching some corporation with a giant contract that does absolutely nothing to move the needle, and at worst it will be an inhumane warehouse to detain inconvenient people.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

So this is why they're turning VA lawyers into part time prosecutors. Great.

[–] protist@retrofed.com 18 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (2 children)

So I work with people experiencing homelessness, and can tell you with authority that there are often times when we know someone meets criteria for guardianship and would genuinely benefit from it, however they have no known next of kin and the alternative state-initiated process can take years.

Based on what I'm reading, they're not talking about seeking guardianship for someone just for being homeless, they're talking about people who have debilitating medical or psychiatric conditions, which often co-occur with homelessness. I think this is a good thing, and I wish my state would support enhanced guardianship capacity for the civilians who need this.

I notice the title posted here has been edited to remove "some" homeless veterans, which was already doing the heavy lifting as clickbait for the NYT. This effort is clearly not aimed at homeless veterans, but some homeless veterans may be impacted if they meet guardianship criteria.

[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago

Yeah, my wife works with homeless veterans. They run the gamut, from hard on your luck to absolutely insane. She had to call PD yesterday because one threatened suicide. She convinced another to speak to a therapist after she acted as a mediator for two hours between the vet and their landlord.

Some of these folks are just off the deep end. Some have very serious drug addictions. And some are fine. If people like my wife got to be part of the process for determining whether someone needed to be institutionalized, I feel like I could trust that process.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

they’re talking about people who have debilitating medical or psychiatric conditions

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_abuse_of_psychiatry_in_the_Soviet_Union

In times like ours, I'm going to oppose any attempt to expand the powers governments have at putting people in cages, however benevolent the aim.

[–] brownsugga@lemmy.world 8 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

i mean it's possible it could be better than homelessness. unlikely, but possible

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 11 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Has anyone tried, IDK, giving them a home?

[–] protist@retrofed.com 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Brother, yes, we have. I have a list of people I can name who we helped house in my city through public housing or permanent supportive housing vouchers and who 1. refused to move in and lost the opportunity, 2. moved in but later decided they'd rather be on the street, or 3. were evicted due to behavioral issues. Most of these people would not meet guardianship criteria, but some definitely would.

[–] xxam925@lemmy.zip 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

And of those how many simply didn’t agree to the conditions your program required? Curfew, drug testing, work requirements, no company(perhaps)?

[–] protist@retrofed.com 2 points 3 hours ago

None of those rules apply at any of the housing programs we work with. People sign leases and have their own apartment. There is no curfew, no expectation of sobriety, it's 100% free for those with zero income and ridiculously low rent for those with income, and they're welcome to have guests as long as they don't stay there long-term. They also have food pantries and laundry on site, as well as case managers and mental health support whenever someone needs it.

[–] CannonFodder@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

Yes? Housing at least, if not a home. Many homeless are more so that way due to mental heath issues. I'm not sure if forced treatment will really help them tho.

[–] Paranoidfactoid@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago

They're building concentration camps and the scope of who they target for detention increases. Immigrants. Now US citizens. It will not stop until we stop it.