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TenForward: Where Every Vulcan Knows Your Name

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[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 80 points 6 days ago (2 children)

TOS came out at a time when people still talked of Columbus discovering america.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 51 points 6 days ago (2 children)

TOS came out at a time when Columbus was still being held in high regard. :)

[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Quick search suggests that the people of Columbia are still pretty happy with the name.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 18 points 6 days ago (7 children)

Meanwhile the people of Ohio's capital aren't

[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 28 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I live in NYC and no one is actually pushing to get rid of Columbus Circle.

otoh, Trump has a Building right on Columbus Circle, so maybe we should ask Mamdani to rename it Obama Circle.

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[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 45 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (4 children)

To be fair, it would be a boring show if they didn’t.

Ship enters orbit of a planet

‘Spock, what do our scans show?’

‘Intense geologic activity, no atmosphere, no life signs.’

Ship spends the next 3 months in orbit collecting data, moves on to the next target

‘Spock, what do our scans show?’

‘Planet is frozen, no geologic activity, no life signs.’

Ship spends the next 3 months in orbit collecting data

Realistic sci fi is waaayyy too boring for a general audience.

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@piefed.world 24 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I choose to believe that it's usually like that, and we're just seeing the days where something interesting happens.

[–] Rooster326@programming.dev 13 points 6 days ago

I mean it has to be.

They age and have discussions of things we don't physically see.

Talking about the first encounter of the Q being 3 years ago not 1000 episodes ago

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Yeah, it kinda feels like you could do a very ‘boring’ science series just showing all of that. But I feel like that’s just ‘sci’ with no ‘fi’.

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[–] Event_Horizon@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago (4 children)
[–] Vespair@lemmy.zip 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I'm glad you made this comment because I was about to.

Starfield, a surprisingly great framework for a game from Bethesda, but they forgot to put the actual game inside it

[–] kieron115@startrek.website 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Todd spent all their time and money making sure the game was utterly impossible to see without a 3000 dollar oled monitor (that LUT was a monstrosity).

[–] Vespair@lemmy.zip 5 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I fully agree with this, but at the same time I just sort of assume any Bethesda game is gonna require a kind of baseline mod setup just to be comfortably playable, so that almost felt like par for the course to me 😅

More power to them, but I will genuinely never understand how people can play Skyrim or Fallout 4 unmodded or on console. I can see New Vegas unmodded, but that ain't Bethesda anyway.

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[–] sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz 19 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Just watched an episode where they literally went to a section of space completely absent of all energy and matter and still somehow met this

[–] QuandaleDingle@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

I scrolled down and I was jumpscared by this. XD

[–] silver_wings_of_morning@feddit.dk 31 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Where no MAN has gone before. Therefore plenty of space chicks

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[–] LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world 40 points 6 days ago (4 children)

I mean the original line was "where no man has gone before" which at least made sense, although it didn't represent the female crew very well.

[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 71 points 6 days ago (9 children)

English uses 'man' and 'mankind' interchangeably.

Grammatically, 'no man' makes more sense than 'no one.'

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@piefed.world 24 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (4 children)

I've always thought it was an odd change. I get why they did it, but the original clearly wasn't being used in the way the change implies.

It has the same energy as saying that you can't use the term "whitelist" and must substitute "allowlist", or "master bedroom" to "primary bedroom", or that time they changed "monkeypox" to "m-pox".

[–] cattywampas@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago (3 children)

"Master bedroom" being changed is such a silly one. That term wasn't even used until the 20th century and referred to the master of the household. It has nothing to do with slave masters.

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[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago (18 children)

Yeah it’s be hard to argue TOS was excluding women in that sentence given the presence of female bridge crew members.

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[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 18 points 6 days ago

"I am no man!" Says the female crew, who proceeds to stab the space Nazgul in the eye.

Yes, it did though. Women, too, are human.

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[–] lakemalcom@sh.itjust.works 32 points 6 days ago (3 children)

It was a list:

  • to explore strange new worlds
  • seek out new life and new civilizations
  • boldly go where no one has gone before
[–] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 17 points 6 days ago

Boldly yes, but It's been a long road gettin' from there to here.

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[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Well, it was supposed to be where no 'man' has gone before, but people had to whine about it, and here we are.

[–] kieron115@startrek.website 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I'm just realizing that the wording change made humans seem REALLY pretentious!

[–] Gathorall@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

Star Empire leaking, if it ain't human it ain't no one.

[–] Cattail@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago (3 children)

There are parts where no one has gone, but landing on a barren rock probably isn't a good story

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[–] GreenShimada@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago

I mean, isn't this basically what every European did in the Americas and Africa?

Columbus: "Look, I'm the first human being ever to set foot here!"

200 Taíno people staring at him wondering WTF was going on

Columbus: "Look, I planted a flag, that way if anyone else ever comes here, they'll know this is Spanish land now."

[–] kieron115@startrek.website 7 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

They said no "one". They can go places as long as there are many things there.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago (4 children)

TBF in the ToS it was ”Where no man has gone before”, not “Where no one has gone before.”

So if it was aliens then the statement was correct, we’d just have to skip all the weird human populated worlds they found.

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[–] s@piefed.world 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The people who were already there didn’t go there if they were always there

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[–] BenLeMan@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

As progressive as the show was for its time, it is informed by narratives of the settler imperialism that helped Europeans "conquer the new world".

There's a reason why the intro casts space as "the final frontier." The frontier myth and its accompanying ideology of Manifest Destiny still formed the widely accepted version of U.S. history. Not the land-grabbing, genociding, slavery-spreading version we know today.

Bonus thought: Exploring space was obviously a big thing back then so it's understandable how Roddenberry came up with this line. But when you really think about it, time is the final frontier that we haven't managed to break through yet. Not space.

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[–] laranis@lemmy.zip 6 points 5 days ago

Just empire things.

[–] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

There wasn't even coffee in the nebula

[–] AgentOrangesicle@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

Huh...

...

huh...

[–] ShaunKL@startrek.website 6 points 5 days ago

The further we go the more we find ourselves.

[–] anton@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 6 days ago

Look, they are trying.
They just keep getting distracted on the way and where overtaken.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 7 points 6 days ago (2 children)

And not just natives (who are invariably human shaped), they often have entire databases of info on them from presumably when they were "discovered".

Mass Effect was a better sci fi universe and I'll die on that hill.

[–] rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 10 points 6 days ago

I don't even think many people will disagree with that. The appealing thing about Star Trek was always the utopia, the idealism, the philosophical questions, and (in some cases) the sciency details. Most attempts to make Star Trek into some kind of uber-galactic-struggle-between-alien-races or quest-to-avoid-the-destruction-of-the-universe that were the focus of many later sci-fi shows ended up making it worse.

As fully fledged sci-fi universes that were explicitly written with these "big" stories in mind, Mass Effect or The Expanse are clearly ahead.

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